Message from @Right_Honourable

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2019-10-13 22:15:54 UTC  

absolutely not, Georgia is on Russia's border

2019-10-13 22:16:18 UTC  

every power has a vested interest in keeping control over their neighboring countries

2019-10-13 22:16:46 UTC  

Bad choice of words, as someone they can push over any time they want, is what I meant

2019-10-13 22:16:47 UTC  

it'd be like if Mexico suddenly decided to align with Russia and China

2019-10-13 22:16:54 UTC  

that is true

2019-10-13 22:17:08 UTC  

Russia did flatten Georgia in the war ten years ago

2019-10-13 22:17:20 UTC  

thing is they're already under a shit ton of sanctions

2019-10-13 22:17:28 UTC  

due to Crimea/Ukraine/Russiagate

2019-10-13 22:17:57 UTC  

so I imagine they'd rather not do shit that will make things worse for them

2019-10-13 22:20:44 UTC  

So if I am understanding this correctly you guys are saying that without western allies Georgia is Russia’s whipping boy and Russia is not at all concerned with the health of the Georgian economy?

2019-10-13 22:21:00 UTC  

yes, Georgia and other Eastern European countries

2019-10-13 22:21:19 UTC  

if the option is Russia vs. another option they'll always take the other option

2019-10-13 22:22:17 UTC  

And there is not a force strong enough in eastern Europe to counterbalance Russia, and the lack of political will to do so is not there as well

2019-10-13 22:22:46 UTC  

having dealt with Chechens and the other minorities @blue falafel mentioned I would be pissed off like crazy if someone tried to settle them in my neighborhood

2019-10-13 22:22:54 UTC  
2019-10-13 22:23:03 UTC  

there is some political will

2019-10-13 22:23:09 UTC  

for example the Three Seas Initiative

2019-10-13 22:23:26 UTC  

but we're talking about countries that have been whomped on by Russia and Germany since the late 1700's

2019-10-13 22:23:34 UTC  

and are also screwed by geography

2019-10-13 22:23:42 UTC  

so they have to be realistic

2019-10-13 22:25:21 UTC  

Well it’s too bad we have been distracted by 2 years with Russiagate and before that by Obama’s Arab spring to take the situation in Eastern Europe more seriously

2019-10-13 22:25:51 UTC  

one of Trump's unquestionably good initiatives is trying to rebuild relationships with these states

2019-10-13 22:26:03 UTC  

e.g. his speech in Poland etc.

2019-10-13 22:26:16 UTC  

also receiving Orban at the White House

2019-10-13 22:26:17 UTC  

the lobbyists for the three seas initiative got his ear 😄

2019-10-13 22:26:25 UTC  

Obama did nothing but fuck with V4 when he was in office

2019-10-13 22:26:45 UTC  

Trump also ratcheted back a lot of dumb shit

2019-10-13 22:27:05 UTC  

for example, fags are whining about how Trump won't take a stand against the attacks on pride parades in Poland

2019-10-13 22:28:46 UTC  

What s do you mean by V4 @mattforney

2019-10-13 22:28:56 UTC  

the Visegrad Four

2019-10-13 22:29:04 UTC  

Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia

2019-10-13 22:30:36 UTC  

Obama is what you get when you have a college professor as head of a state. Affirmative action hires and neglect.

2019-10-13 22:31:50 UTC  

Hillary’s Russian reset was during this time as well

2019-10-13 22:34:23 UTC  

got too into this conversation, almost lost my underlords match in early game

2019-10-13 22:34:36 UTC  

but sailed through the rest of the game with 2hp left

2019-10-13 22:34:45 UTC  

about to knock the last guy out

2019-10-13 22:34:48 UTC  

heh

2019-10-13 22:35:10 UTC  

Priorities, man!

2019-10-13 22:36:03 UTC  

shit i took second ;_; thought i had it

2019-10-13 22:39:10 UTC  

I think that Trump is underrated in his foreign policy. Wignats hate him not being openly antisemitic but if Hillary or ¡Jeb! would have won we would be in another quagmire for sure

2019-10-13 22:40:05 UTC  

I mean I don’t really care about where the embassy is or about golan heights or whatever