Message from @Mercy
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Not all things will end up 'working out fine', though a lot of things are connected for good or bad to happen. God will let things happen that he sees is right to happen for better things to come.
In the very end (revelation), there is a great tribulation. There is THE anti-Christ. Not just an anti-Christ, but the Anti-Christ. Is this all bad? Of course it is, but is there better to come after? For sure, and we see that.
When they were rebuilding the gates of Jerusalem people prayed God would fix the gates. It took someone from out of country to ask their king permission to do it. Then he went there and lead them. The surrounding countries were jealous and tried to spread rumors of anarchy and treason to the king about these "rebelous jews." But this time they didnt just beleieve everything would work out with god. The elders came together with a clever plan and it was thwarted. THEN the nations actively tried to sabotage the walls and attack and they had to build the walls with a sword in one hand and mortar in the other. It was a fight, it was hard, and was not good. But they didnt just "Well god has a plan and if his plan is to see this wall built it will happen, and if not its all part of gods plan."
Passivist Christians are lazy. We are called to do "SOMETHING" not nothing.
It's up to us to figure out what God's will is for us to do.
Vocation
You have the options laid out there for you
Everyone points to revelation for literal translation but the entire endeavor was based to be like a greek play and made with heavy symbolism and is NOT how things are going to play out.
It's all parables, similes, metaphors, etc
Its an allegory, not a parable. Like Pilgrims Progress.
characteristics are given personification.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's true I suppose
The thing about revelation is that all the things mentioned in there *will* happen. Perhaps not in a literal way like Paul states things in. It could be over the course of time, or it could be swift, but who knows? All we know is that it's going to be a wild ride.
There's time and will for all things.
THE BIBLE, itself, states that NO MAN will know when its coming and anyone who says they know is lying. it will come when nobody is expecting it. Generation after generation think it.
WW2 Nazi prison camps, Revelation.
Veitnam war and the expulsion of religeon from the state, Revelations.
Y2K, end of the world.
2012: End of the world.
2020: Revelations.
I didn't insist on anyone using it, I just happen to like it. I find older language interesting
Yes, no man will know.
God will come like a thief in the night.
its not coming because everyone is expecting it.
If anything its going to come at a time when everyone breathes a sigh of releif that things are much better.
Many things must come first.
Some, we've seen already in this year and the last
No one knows the day or the hour but the Father in Heaven, but He did give us signs to look for that would indicate the nearing of them
Actually most theologians speculate most of the requirements were met with the roman empire.
Things like lawlessness, the rebuilding of the 3rd temple, etc.
Yes
Yup, and Nero is considered the anti-Christ by many
Or the Beast
Knowledge will increase; just look at all the technology we have today compared to just a few decades ago
It was said it would be as the days of Noah and Lot
Of course knowledge will increase, but so the lies will too
Society is certainly going there.
Humanity could be wiped out right now because of all that we do, but many things must come first as I said before
We're already in that period imo.
Well the last sort of requirement is the last soul that can be saved by god being saved is the trigger. Once god sees there is nobody left to save, it comes.
Countries are becoming the new Sodom and Gomorrah
and clearly we are nowhere there yer
yet
The 122,000 or 144,000 marked by God, right?
On mount Zion