Freemasons were a rebellion that became more powerful

Freemasons are hellbent

They were a rebellion against the establishment before they establlished themselves

You should study them deeper

I don't approve them necessarily

You obviously do if you idolize their political ideals

But the establishment at the time did not like them.

What do you mean by freemason ideas

Classical liberalism

So what do you mean by Classical Liberalism

Pretty obvious

Limited government and free markets

My grandfather was part of the Freemason Society, but he was a Republican

No, be specific, you have been troublesome in your definition

Yes. Limited Government and Free Market.

It's so cringe that GOP only 8 years ago had Mitt Romney running for office. And 12 years ago McCain. Wtf...

Doesn't matter if freemasons did it, they were good ideas.

Hitler can say 2 + 2 = 4 and it would be true. Attack the idea not the people

Einstein can say 2 + 2 = 5 and he would be wrong.

Limited government is a horrendous idea

Many Nazis believed 1 + 1 = 2. They used it to craft their machines.

If believing 1 + 1 =2 means I'm a Nazi, then by that definition, separated from other terms, I am one.

because there is no such thing

That's not true. Government that is Limited does exist. You say it is wrong because governments seek more power.

But they still have a limited state.

Name one

Mauritius

The United States Federal Government still has limits to what it can do. There are certain things it cannot do without either braking the law, or loosing too much consent from the people.

Even the CPP has to use "relief valve techniques"

Didnt you just get done saying how the federal government is out of control or something

But it still has limits

Sorry fam, but they break the law anyway. Ain't no limits

And 200 years ago, it was in a more limited states

No.

Limits do not matter if they are not used

There are. Revolutionary War happened after the British Government overstepped

exactly

There are limits that any government must abide by in order to keep the support of the people.

Government doesnt have to follow its own rules lol

No

Yes.

We have had revolts. They break the contract, they die.