because Xbox has never really done all that well outside of America, Xbox One did particularly bad, and the fact that there's Xbox Game Pass Ultimate that covers Xbox and PC?

and you can upgrade to it from Xbox Live Gold, which is console only?

yeah that tells me they're gearing up for a transition

Xbox will become a series of desktop gaming computers and laptops

well I think it's both. Like you can game on your pc or xbox

it's a different experience sitting on your couch with a controller than on your pc with m and key

yeah but it definitely feels like they're trying to sort of shift the Xbox brand into a segment of PC gaming and out of console

also a lot of normoids are going to just go console

because they could just add the radio chips for the xbox controllers to their own line of gaming laptops and desktops

let me put it to you this way

suppose Microsoft made an Xbox Laptop with a Docking Station

you put it in the dock, you have a console hooked up to your TV

you take it off and it's a general purpose/gaming laptop

that's the kind of stuff I think they might be looking at doing

I thought Valve was going to do that with steam consoles 5 years ago, but I think it's pretty finnicky. The average consumer doesn't want something like that

the issue with Valve trying was that it was linux based and finnicky because it was a company with no experience

MS has experience making consoles, they also have experience making a very successful line of laptops and tablets

I think either MS will switch gears and sort of fold Xbox into the Surface brand in a way, or we might see some crazy reverse shit happen like 10 years out

where the custom ARM chips MS is testing in some of their tablets get good enough that they basically make an Xbox that's a Switch

It kinda feels like they're gearing up for a total streaming console, with the S

I mean I guess that's what it is basically

you just download the titles instead of streaming them

right now

eh that's nothing new

there's a big difference between that and a full streaming console

full streaming consoles can't and won't catch on until the underlying infrastructure can support it

right I mean they might just market it that way in the future

$300, turn it on, title screen of any game in 10 seconds

that'll depend on infrastructure

console makers have no say in the matter

not even Google has a say in the matter

the cable companies have even Google by the balls on that particular subject

wow

think about it

have you heard anything about Stadia since it's flop of a launch?

no

because not even Google can beat Comcast

yeah but we could smell that stinker

for the exact reason I said

doesn't matter what crazy tech you use

when do you think the tech will be possible