Message from @Hot babe VK168.01 (P)

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2020-11-09 19:01:24 UTC  

Why they ever thought bumping the gun up to a 90mm i wont know

2020-11-09 19:01:32 UTC  

Becsuse the issue wasnt its gun

2020-11-09 19:02:57 UTC  

Only thing it had going with it was its powerful radial engine and being spacious inside

2020-11-09 20:05:27 UTC  

76mm in some cases wasn't sufficient (i.e. Panthers and King Tigers) 90mm proved more than sufficient for those

2020-11-09 20:10:46 UTC  

Why do you think USSR got the 85mm and 122mm on T-34 and IS-2/JS-2?, they were punching through with enough kinetic force that even if it didn't penetrate, the spalling was ridiculously large that the crew would be incapacitated

2020-11-09 20:16:07 UTC  

Large cannons are brutal

2020-11-09 20:16:27 UTC  

ISU-152 cannon could flip over tiger 1’s

2020-11-09 20:16:42 UTC  

If hit at the side

2020-11-09 20:17:32 UTC  

It could flip a tiger? Damn, now that's an impact.

2020-11-09 20:17:54 UTC  

And knock off the turrets of tiger II’s

2020-11-09 20:19:27 UTC  

Its a Howitzer round fired by a casemate TD, what do you expect?

2020-11-09 20:19:27 UTC  

Didn't realize the ISU-152 had that much punch to it.

2020-11-09 20:19:50 UTC  

I expected a lot, but not enough to flip a tiger.

2020-11-09 20:20:00 UTC  

ok, thats big and all but battleship guns, wow

2020-11-09 20:20:36 UTC  

The largests guns on any BB was the Yamato Class with 410mm

2020-11-09 20:20:56 UTC  

Okay, if we're on the topic of Battleships then... Can we bring them back? I wish we still had some giants roaming the seas.

2020-11-09 20:20:59 UTC  

Second being Iowa with 381mm

2020-11-09 20:21:11 UTC  

> Okay, if we're on the topic of Battleships then... Can we bring them back? I wish we still had some giants roaming the seas.
@Large H Expensive

2020-11-09 20:21:49 UTC  

Don't care how expensive, I'd love to just see them again.

2020-11-09 20:22:21 UTC  

But, seriously. You're right, they're really expensive for what they are and other ships can do a better job.

2020-11-09 20:23:03 UTC  

Yamato had 460mm guns

2020-11-09 20:23:13 UTC  

18 inch

2020-11-09 20:25:03 UTC  

ok, lets put this into perspective, a BB takes anywhere between 15k-38k men to operate, all of them have to be paid, then we have to do maintenance of the ship periodically, for a ship the size of 300+ Meters, its a hefty fee, then its ammo, we need to not only modernize the breech, it uses a specific powder to launch the shell which is no longer in production

2020-11-09 20:25:22 UTC  

> Yamato had 460mm guns
@Hot babe VK168.01 (P) Thanks for the correction, I have vertigo still

2020-11-09 20:25:42 UTC  

@PantherUnit01 so did bismark

2020-11-09 20:25:47 UTC  

Yamato was 264 meters and Iowa class 270 meters

2020-11-09 20:25:54 UTC  

but, two gun turret in stead of three

2020-11-09 20:26:04 UTC  

Understood

2020-11-09 20:26:16 UTC  

But still, they are expensive ships

2020-11-09 20:26:32 UTC  

which is why we moved to Cruisers and DD's

2020-11-09 20:26:57 UTC  

No there is an Yamato design with 6 540mm guns but normal Yamato has 9 460mm guns

2020-11-09 20:28:10 UTC  

> No there is an Yamato design with 540mm guns but normal Yamato has 9 460mm guns
@Hot babe VK168.01 (P) Yeah, the Super Yamato or the I class hull BB's, they were blueprints and a Keel placed the 540's wout be 2 barrel and had an effective range of 18km

2020-11-09 20:29:18 UTC  

Wait only 18km ? Lol

2020-11-09 20:30:20 UTC  

Max range was more, but beyond 18km is not a guaranteed hit

2020-11-09 20:30:31 UTC  

Recoil was problematic

2020-11-09 20:33:49 UTC  

I believe that Germany had plans to build a battleship that had 3 3-gun turrets each armed with 800 mm guns

2020-11-09 20:34:23 UTC  

Thats the key word, PLANNED

2020-11-09 20:34:40 UTC  

They had no way for that to happen realistically

2020-11-09 20:34:53 UTC  

Look at the P1000 Ratte

2020-11-09 20:35:18 UTC  

A battleship sized Heavy tank

2020-11-09 20:35:33 UTC  

You'd have to be insane for that to be real