The Germans also developed the helicopter during the war, but only managed to produce two and they were barely more than prototypes.

Actually helicopters existed since the late 30s I believe.

I'd need evidence on that one. I have the evidence for the tail end of the war.

Helicopters have been in the making since 400 BC

There were helicopters made by individuals well before WW1

yes, we're talking about funtion military helecopters though which didn't come into use until after ww2

I knew there were blueprints made by Leonardo da Vinci and by the Confederate States, but no practical, working prototypes.

to my limited knowlage

@Southernpatriot01 the Confederate State? can I see?

the made a doodle, please show me

Give me a couple minutes.

https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/plans-little-known-confederate-helicopter

Ah my bad lol

You're fine friend.

that's super cool thanks

https://helikopterhysteriezwo.blogspot.com/2012/06/moments-in-helicopter-history-9.html?m=1

1901

Anytime. A great deal of technology came out of the War Between the States.

In german but readable

helepolis, what happens when the guy you hired to build a siege tower is a bit extra

Indeed.

It was 1943 and the R-4. That's what I was thinking of

But hand grenades and landmines were even used in their infancy in the Civil War.

Ok. I'd actually forgotten about that one.

But I thought it was 30s not mid 40s.

Ah.

Technically, hand grenades have been around since the 16th century, and were used in major conflicts, like say, the siege of Vienna

Yes, but the technology never progressed fat.

*far. Many European armies had grenadier battalions throughout the 17th and 18th centuries. Britain still has some grenadier battalions. My comment stems from if you look at the overall technology used, it was still in it's infancy as little progress was made. The hand grenades of the 17th and 18th centuries were, if I recall correctly, essentially small cannon balls with a fuse. In the Civil War, they illongated the shape, and added fins and a percussion cap detonator.

best grenade is jin grenade

ah i see

I remember reading somewhere that Ottoman grenades from the siege of Vienna were, as you said, cannon balls with fuses, but instead were made of glass

the hasbury grenades were iron balls with gunpowder inside that functioned like later early morter shells. The Ottomans on the other hand, had glass grenades, which could be thrown almost four times as far as the iron ones but didn't produce as much shrapnel.

French also had grenades when they were exploring the Texas coastline, they were clay pots filled with blackpowder and had a fuse

grenades used by the knights of malta beoive bishop piss was a nessacsary ingrideint

Indeed. Lots of interesting technological developments in that war. Also, I didn't know that Chaz.

wait, your telling me they used Bishop piss in their grenades?

yes

Ah

And now im thinking of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, thanks

Flak 15cm