how can they grab your gun

Youd be surprised

fair enough

Are y’all in favor of c4 legalization, full auto ban removed, and lifting suppressor restrictions

Duh

Maybe not the c4 though, that's a bit too indiscriminate for me

Yes to last two, no to first one.

I mean, the second amendment states that the right to bear arms cannot be infringed. So, it depends on whether you consider a C4 to be under the element of arms. If I can have a cannon, why can't I have C4?

A cannon can't be used as a bomb that you carry in your backpack

5th gen warfare is more prevalent than ever and allowing people to outright buy explosives like C4 wouldn't help anyone. Full auto can be used for defense against the govt and suppressors are just nice to have in general

I suppose. I'm not even sure. I just think overall, the right to bear arms isn't to be infringed. So, I tend to lean towards overall freedom.

yes but total freedom leads to anarchy. There needs to be some sort of govt control but not enough to be interfering with daily life. Giving states more rights considering how much they've pushed it already will just make it worse

Federal govt should prevent states from infringing because they're more likely to than Feds at this point

I agree that federal government should prevent the infringement. And I think it is important to look at the reasoning that the bill of rights was written the way it was written. We are granted inalienable rights, that the government should not be infringed. The second amendment is necessary in the situation of a tyrannical government. I think there is also a slippery slope argument that has to be made based on how gun laws have already been enacted. As we have seen, the more any gun laws have been pushed, the more restrictions are offered. I agree C4 may be more dangerous then you expect, but I think it is important not to help create more restrictions on our end.

There's a difference between arms and armaments

I mean, the term arm in reference to weapons originates from armaments.

If people can riot for 3+ months with bricks and cause billions in damage with random shit, you think they'll just ignore the part where they can walk into Ace hardware and buy C4?

It would help nothing. It's only to destroy destroy destroy

I mean, if the Government gets tyrannical how else are you supposed to sabotage their tanks and have dramatic entrances???

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I think c4 should stay banned

Steal their c4 with your automatics

No point in legalizing it

Like I said, c4 is too indiscriminate. Bullets may have your mame on them, but explosives are "to whom it may concern"

True

Nuclear weapons are "this is a public service announcement"

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As I said above, I think any law regarding weapons becomes a slippery slope. If we just give in on weapons being banned, then they will take that as their opportunity to ban other weapons because "common sense".

I do think C4 has risks, but I'm just saying that we have already seen how the slippery slope works.

The "common sense" argument goes out the window if there was the slightest chance that you, as an individual, could be harmed by another's actions. Self preservation is one of the highest values that most people have (or should have) and it makes no sense to limit one's ability to defend their life

On the topic of explosives (plastic, powder, etc) it gets a bit fuzzier, mostly since there aren't many, if any, scenarios where an explosion can be used in a defensive manner.

But can it be used against a tyrannical government?

If you're going against any form of government, then legality becomes pointless

Even so, the main point of explosives, if not as a propellant, is for either A) causing indiscriminate casualties or B) demolitions

Demolishing the patriarchy? 🤣

I do believe there are aspects of keeping explosives legal or at least accessible against the government when it becomes necessary.

Thing is, there's no real way to make them inaccessible to anyone with a home depot and chemistry textbooks

In all seriousness, if I was in a building an active shooter walking, I would rather them have full auto as compared to semi auto. Because I feel like they would be much more likely to waste ammo with missed shots due to recoil. And as unfortunate as it would be I think people who end up being shot will end up being shot three or four times, but with semi auto only once or twice. So unfortunate for the victims but better for the group

Beretta 92

@Tack why'd you delete the initial picture?

It was a shitty angle