And its hard to run with them

Who said anything about going for the legs <:LeoDecaprio:768140752525852742>

Torso shots are ideal but legs are lethal

Keep in mind any gov guy with armor shot of a cop has lvl4 ceramic and you wont punch through it short of a 50bmg

But hitting the plate with a heavy round will still knock them down and possibly break ribs

Aye

Definitely immobilize them for some time. But with adrenaline they might not even notice it

True

Do you guys think when the govt comes to take our guns they will do it at night so you don’t have any time to prepare?

Just something to think about

Yes

Most ATF raids happen between 2-5 am

Any ideas on how to deal with a big govt force?

The last big daytime raid was WACO when they needed daylight for filming purposes in the hopes to televise themselvs as heros

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If they ATF or sister comes to you guns blazing you best fight back

Because they will lie, torture, and do anything to trick you into surrendering

But dont hold out too long or theyll burn you alive

Does a 30-06 have a lot of power with bullet proof vest?

M1 garand 👀

Agents wear a lvl4 ceramic

So it’s hard

That will stop a 30-06 black tip and anything smaller

Short of an AP 300lpm or 50bmg isnt going through

Youll have to go arround

Ceramic doesn’t cover the sides tho?

Let me find an example

Thats basicly what they wear

Hmm

The center area holds a plate made of ceramic

Everything else is nylon

Would 8 rounds of 30-06 do anything?

Bump fire a garand 😂😂😂

Knock him to the ground for sure

If you use lead bullets that are not copper plated or whatever they would get lead poisoning?

Thats a plate

Lead poisoning isnt an immediate thing

It takes a long time to take effect

Ya