Message from @Osha19

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2020-10-28 17:29:24 UTC  
2020-10-28 17:29:52 UTC  

those were two different discutions

2020-10-28 17:30:08 UTC  

You have brought up the same argument about gays many times

2020-10-28 17:30:33 UTC  

because it was never refuted with evidence

2020-10-28 17:30:42 UTC  

I know you are not a Christian and I respect that but you are also not a biblical scholar

2020-10-28 17:31:16 UTC  

Many times people told you what Paul meant with homosexuals but you seemed to not listen and keep repeating your talking points

2020-10-28 17:31:29 UTC  

no, but I have looked at the passages and their wording

2020-10-28 17:32:35 UTC  

What about the context around it?

2020-10-28 17:33:18 UTC  

Leviticus 18:22 "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable." the words of god have been argued for ever

2020-10-28 17:33:54 UTC  

@President Elect Adams and thank you for phrasing your grievence in such a respectful way

2020-10-28 17:34:46 UTC  

@(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ Hug god ♥ I definitely think you should find a church that resonates with you. The Holy Spirit is longing for interaction in faith (hence your feeling). Find a church that accepts you and, if it matters to you, accepts everyone. Because that’s what Christianity should be; that’s what Jesus wanted🤘🏼.

2020-10-28 17:34:50 UTC  

Chaz the bible is not a clearly written book. The people who have told you what those verses are trying to convey, are people that have meditated on these verses for many hours, days, weeks. You cannot say you understand black and white what the verse is saying just from reading it over and over. You need to meditate on it.

2020-10-28 17:35:37 UTC  

@chaz @President Elect Adams let’s not get into a debate about religion and instead focus on what the question was and help a fellow member.

2020-10-28 17:35:55 UTC  

It's a long process. And it takes dedication and time to understand God's word. Some verses are easier understood than others but that doesnt mean they dont take meditation or thought.

2020-10-28 17:36:15 UTC  

ok, point taken @Osha19 but it is still evidence for my argument, following the word or god, not what has been infered by wiser men before me

2020-10-28 17:36:30 UTC  

@Eagle aight I'm ready who we helping

2020-10-28 17:37:05 UTC  

Chaz have you taken time to meditate and properly read the bible and those verses you use to counter?

2020-10-28 17:37:11 UTC  

^^

2020-10-28 17:37:16 UTC  

Have you thought deeper into their meanings?

2020-10-28 17:39:37 UTC  

There is no possible way you can tell someone, who dedicates hours of time to meditating on the bible, that they misunderstand what the verse(s) is trying to convey.

2020-10-28 17:40:32 UTC  

I'm just gonna cite that europe fought it's most catastrophic war over doing exataly that

2020-10-28 17:40:43 UTC  

> @(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ Hug god ♥ Find a church that accepts you and, if it matters to you, accepts everyone. Because that’s what Christianity should be; that’s what Jesus wanted🤘🏼.
@Eagle But not just any church, it must be a biblically accurate one. There are many that are not. Such as ones that are basically “Hey, you’re awesome and God will make you happy, rich, and healthy”

2020-10-28 17:41:22 UTC  

@(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ Hug god ♥ also check out zoroastrianism for christian lite

2020-10-28 17:41:36 UTC  

but yeah, christianity is super cool

2020-10-28 17:41:37 UTC  

Zoroastrianism isnt a denomination of christianity?

2020-10-28 17:41:48 UTC  

and socratic morals are good

2020-10-28 17:42:11 UTC  

Christianity isnt based off Socrates philosophies!

2020-10-28 17:42:17 UTC  

@CoolGuard @(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ Hug god ♥ yes I completely agree sir. Definitely find a church that bases it’s teachings and sermons off of verses. The Bible is the foundation for our faith.

2020-10-28 17:42:42 UTC  

And Jesus of course!

2020-10-28 17:43:15 UTC  

God never said life would be easy. He said it would be hard, that we would face trials and tribulations

2020-10-28 17:45:17 UTC  

@Osha19 Zoroastrianism is a good 1500 years older than christ, and no, but it has the same moral ideas and ideals

2020-10-28 17:45:59 UTC  

Older than Christ?

2020-10-28 17:46:03 UTC  

ofc its older than christ

2020-10-28 17:46:12 UTC  

@CoolGuard yes my point was to find a church that wouldn’t necessarily preach everything is easy, but instead be accepting and not push someone away for sinning. Being accepting is not the same as misconstruing life to be easy,

2020-10-28 17:47:04 UTC  

Chaz you say you will be open minded but you refute every bits of evidence we give you on numerous levels. because it simply doesnt fit your beliefs. Evidence is NOT something that changes from person to person. It isnt something you infer. There is hard evidence to a lot of the things we argue. But again you refute it all asking for proper evidence. What we give you is proper evidence. You still reject it. This gets tiring and shows that you do not wish to have an open mind on a lot of things. This leads to poor conversations and debates that lead no where.

2020-10-28 17:47:26 UTC  

@Eagle i'm not christian but amen

2020-10-28 17:47:56 UTC  

@Osha19 would you like more bible lines that prove my point?

2020-10-28 17:48:31 UTC  

> also check out zoroastrianism for christian lite
If something is “Christian but-“ then that’s not. Christianity is such that it is only compatible with Christ.

2020-10-28 17:49:20 UTC  

Have you spent hours properly meditated in them? or have you just read them and interpreted them to fit your own beliefs?

2020-10-28 17:50:14 UTC  

I read the literal definintion of the words presented