Message from @KyrosTheWarrior

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2020-12-14 13:53:58 UTC  

Ok, you see, a God is plausible.
Principle of causality and all.
I could consider myself "at best a theist".

2020-12-14 13:54:15 UTC  

That’s a start for sure. Many folks start there

2020-12-14 13:54:45 UTC  

It's just that I was never taught about religion, and I never had a moment that "showed me the truth".

2020-12-14 13:55:20 UTC  

And the abrahamic God has contradictions in its portrayals.

2020-12-14 13:55:51 UTC  

Well let me see if I can help you with those so called contradictions. Maybe then you’ll see it a bit more clearly

2020-12-14 13:55:52 UTC  

So anything religious I never found a reason to believe in.

2020-12-14 13:56:18 UTC  

Ok, I'll try.

2020-12-14 13:56:29 UTC  

I get the contradictions that people speak about but they are very easily explained away

2020-12-14 13:58:17 UTC  

Omnipotence is logically contradictory. The rock paradox explains it well.
"Can an omnipotent being create a rock so large not even they can lift?"
"If they do, they can't lift it, so they are not omipotent..."
"But if they don't, they can't create such a rock, so they are not omnipotent".

2020-12-14 13:58:56 UTC  

So God can be powerful, but not all-powerful.

2020-12-14 13:59:10 UTC  

Like the Bible says.

2020-12-14 13:59:58 UTC  

Well if God is the creator of everything, I don’t find it so strange to see him as having the ability to be entirely powerful without limits

2020-12-14 14:00:17 UTC  

If he was here before everything. If he is behind it all

2020-12-14 14:00:48 UTC  

I can accept it could be beyond the principle of causality, but the principle of logic too?

2020-12-14 14:01:33 UTC  

Personally I think it makes the most sense. Why wouldn’t God be all powerful. If he created everything, how could he have limits

2020-12-14 14:02:02 UTC  

There are things that even beyond what is universal can't exist.

2020-12-14 14:02:14 UTC  

Like a square circle.

2020-12-14 14:02:45 UTC  

As the Bible puts it, God it beyond all those things

2020-12-14 14:03:19 UTC  

Well, you are also assuming that just because a God can create everything here, why couldn't they have limits?

2020-12-14 14:03:24 UTC  

We just can't know.

2020-12-14 14:03:55 UTC  

Anything non existent beyond universal is just speculation.

2020-12-14 14:04:13 UTC  

No we certainly can’t no. But it seems simply strange that God himself would have limits

2020-12-14 14:05:25 UTC  

And as a Christian, the Bible is clear that God is all powerful. It’s more biblically aligned. So not only does my sense say he must be but the Bible happens to agree and make it clear with everything else

2020-12-14 14:05:37 UTC  

Welp, so, back to before. You came to the conclusion that the Christian God was the most plausible adaptation of God.

2020-12-14 14:06:00 UTC  

Yes

2020-12-14 14:06:28 UTC  

And then of course believing in it I felt drawn in a way but none of that is what you want to hear lol 

2020-12-14 14:06:52 UTC  

Were you brought up as one?

2020-12-14 14:08:39 UTC  

Yes but I went to a very sack-religious school all my life and constantly questioned what it is that I was brought up with. Then. I finally come to these conclusions, and fully accepted it all. And if you’re curious, there’s tons of people who weren’t brought up that way who have become believers

2020-12-14 14:09:07 UTC  

Oh yes I know.

2020-12-14 14:09:19 UTC  

Like John Doyle. 😆

2020-12-14 14:09:24 UTC  

Lol

2020-12-14 14:10:07 UTC  

Ok, so. Did God write the Bible?

2020-12-14 14:10:15 UTC  

Or followers of him?

2020-12-14 14:11:34 UTC  

In a way. It’s terribly difficult to explain. Well not really but I do poorly trying to. Read this, it’s not too long. https://www.gotquestions.org/who-wrote-the-Bible.html

2020-12-14 14:12:11 UTC  

Basically he used people to write it down

2020-12-14 14:14:02 UTC  

Welp, that makes more sense than a book falling from the skies like Mjölnir.

2020-12-14 14:14:40 UTC  

Lol I know right

2020-12-14 14:15:50 UTC  

So that explains inconsistencies and mistakes I guess.
If God just "inspires" people, and humans are flawed, not all of them will be as bright with their expression.

2020-12-14 14:16:05 UTC  

Plus they were more than one.

2020-12-14 14:17:53 UTC  

Yes for the most part. Now I’m not sure what inconsistencies you’re referring to, there are certainly some but none gospel changing

2020-12-14 14:18:55 UTC  

Ok, but now here's some problems.
Evolutionary psychology can't coexist with the myth of Adan and Eve.