Capitalism is not all that old either necessarily...

Every society falls no matter what. It doesn't matter what their morals are

I am an anarchist

Not a communist

But Judeo-Christian ideals and beliefs go back to the beginning of time.

Well there have been societies before that wich had similar morals but that argument doesn't work because most probably you dont belive there were societies before christianity

Judaism is the oldest religion.

> "The atheists are for the most part impudent and misguided scholars who reason badly who, not being able to understand the Creation, the origin of evil, and other difficulties, have recourse to the hypothesis the eternity of things and of inevitability." - Voltaire

Well take it this way 1) belive isn't about argument, you either belive or not 2) I do not belive in supernatural forces 3) I am not going to try and believe because that would be disrespectful towards people who belive , You cant try beliving you either do or dont and if I "tried" it would be pretend

Duh, I believe there were societies before Christianity--Christianity started with Jesus about 2000 years ago. It is the culmination and fulfillment though of the Old Testament, so it goes back to the beginning of time through that.

@ELIS314 3) -- what's that mean your are not going to try to believe because it would be disrespectful to those that do?

Like that isnt what I mean , like societies were in india and the middle east before the old testament

Not the same ones that are around today

Because I cant try beliving, how is try to belive suppose to work even?

No society has lasted and been the same since before Christ up to now.

Like could you try beliving in santa or would that be pretend?

That is why Jesus says you need to have the faith of a little child. You have hardened yourself too much to where you think it's so hard to do.

Listen, if Santa is actually my parents, and my parents exist, Santa exists.

I see God on the same level I see harry potter

Well, that's wrong.

And you will answer for it.

That is were I said God is The world

It's similar

God is God!

Not the world!

Santa is santa

Not my parents

God made the world, but he’s an equidistant judge

You know, you'll just keep stumbling in the dark until you decide you want to exercise faith in God. Heb. 11:6, "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."

The Bible is so enlightening!

Like IDU why do you need god to be moral? Like if you didn't belive in hell you would kill your brother ?that sounds like there is something wrong with you

When you exercise faith in Him, He then gives you evidence.

I dont belive exercising faith is a real thing, it makes no sense

Like that is just pretending I belive till I convince myself or what?

There was something wrong with Cain, the first murderer, who murdered his brother. He believed in God, but still killed his brother.

Wow, I’ve had so much evidence that he’s real. So many spectacular and miraculous things have happened to me in my lifetime for seemingly no reason.

When I say “seemingly”, it’s because there must be a reason for everything.

I belive that the supernatural wasnt important about jesus, if jesus was a regular guy in the bible his teachings would still be remarkable, its about the teachings itself not some supernatural vodo

It's a step you take, a conscious decision to say, Ok, God, I'm making a step toward you. Chuck away the intellectualism that clouds your mind. Get back to the simplicity of a little child as Jesus said, and believe in God.

I dont belive there is a reason for anything

Supernatural was the most important part about Jesus!!