Message from @Kit_DewStein

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2021-01-08 02:32:11 UTC  

he even talked about how the quran says the earth is flat, which was before we knew the earth is round so it would make sense for in that age to think the earth is flat

2021-01-08 02:33:12 UTC  

yeah he seems like a good guy just tryin to do what he believes to be right

2021-01-08 02:34:03 UTC  

Mohammed couldn't read or write. What he learned was by ear of different people. It was close people of his that wrote what he said

2021-01-08 02:34:10 UTC  

Which explains a lot of the book

2021-01-08 02:35:12 UTC  

i didn't know that either i thought he wrote it himself

2021-01-08 02:36:05 UTC  

Yeah

2021-01-08 02:36:34 UTC  

A very trustworthy professor I had knew about mohammed pretty well

2021-01-08 02:37:18 UTC  

if you're interested i can dm you his channel looks like he's still uploading regularly

2021-01-08 02:38:08 UTC  

That would be great!

2021-01-08 02:38:18 UTC  

Thank you :)

2021-01-08 02:39:27 UTC  

aren't ex-muslims in danger of being killed for leaving islam?

2021-01-08 02:40:43 UTC  

Yes

2021-01-08 02:41:50 UTC  

I believe there is a possible redeeming thing that can be done, but I could be misremembering that

2021-01-08 02:42:06 UTC  

so it's an extremely difficult decision for these people to denounce islam under threat of death. he must live in a country that allows freedom of religion if he's able to make these videos

2021-01-08 02:42:35 UTC  

A lot of muslims live in America when they leave the religion

2021-01-08 02:43:09 UTC  

Which is thankfully at this time still freedom of religion

2021-01-08 02:43:09 UTC  

makes sense

2021-01-08 02:43:24 UTC  

yeah they tried to take that away too though

2021-01-08 02:44:18 UTC  

happy that Trump has put God back into the White House when previous administrations kicked Him out

2021-01-08 02:44:28 UTC  

Same.

2021-01-08 02:46:18 UTC  

An ironic thing, people bring up philosophers as a way to disprove God. But if they read up on what some philosophers thought of as a utopia, they would learn that philosophers said that god to believe in would help the people

2021-01-08 02:46:30 UTC  

Which I know is random in this topic

2021-01-08 02:52:08 UTC  

i've never really listened to philosophers talk or read idk was just somethin that never really intrigued me

2021-01-08 02:53:20 UTC  

I am heavily interested in old civilizations. So I tried to be informed as best as I can be.

2021-01-08 02:53:45 UTC  

i kinda see them as people just interpreting life

2021-01-08 02:54:12 UTC  

Some where yes. Others tried to perfect life

2021-01-08 02:54:21 UTC  

Or knowledgeable men

2021-01-08 02:55:22 UTC  

idk striving for perfection can be pretty damaging imo

2021-01-08 02:56:00 UTC  

*looks at history* yeah, it depends on the perfection

2021-01-08 02:56:01 UTC  

we are flawed beings, perfection is impossible to achieve

2021-01-08 02:56:22 UTC  

I am a Christian. I strive to be like Jesus but know I will never be perfect

2021-01-08 02:56:32 UTC  

Nor can I ever be

2021-01-08 02:56:41 UTC  

we are, but striving for it should be our goal, the real question is who defines perfection, and what is perfection

2021-01-08 02:57:57 UTC  

It depends. By the Bible? God. Worldly? It depends on the nation

2021-01-08 02:58:11 UTC  

i guess what i'm tryin to say is needing everything to be perfect can end up being overwhelming

2021-01-08 02:58:42 UTC  

because we just aren't going to be able to have it not as earthly beings anyway

2021-01-08 02:58:51 UTC  

Sparta, was the best soldiers. Old Germany? Well uh, consult the history books

2021-01-08 03:13:47 UTC  

i have question: how can we discuss religion without debating validity of it?

2021-01-08 03:15:43 UTC  

By discussing the difference in beliefs

2021-01-08 03:16:12 UTC  

It can be done. This day and age is used to having to defend themselves from any conversation though

2021-01-08 03:16:36 UTC  

It is also easier done in person. Tones cannot be heard in text