Message from @PantherUnit01

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2020-11-22 04:07:25 UTC  

I would argue the F/A-18 family is the most underrated fighter family at the moment

2020-11-22 04:07:51 UTC  

Mostly because of the success of F-14

2020-11-22 04:08:08 UTC  

But F/A-18 is not bad

2020-11-22 04:08:39 UTC  

The 14 just doesn’t have good AOA performance

2020-11-22 04:09:21 UTC  

But it was extremely successful against 19's, 21's, 23's and 29's

2020-11-22 04:09:23 UTC  

The F-14 is a great interceptor and long range strike, but honestly the hornet is a far better match to counter fighters such at the Su-35

2020-11-22 04:09:36 UTC  

I'd say they all excel at their particular roles

2020-11-22 04:10:12 UTC  

The YF-23 should have also been procured, change my mind

2020-11-22 04:10:22 UTC  

But the Su-35 would be a tough opponent to the F-14.

2020-11-22 04:11:28 UTC  

The F-14 would be slaughtered

2020-11-22 04:11:29 UTC  

Not really, the AIM-54 Phoenix missile would lock on from 64kms away and keep it on its toes

2020-11-22 04:11:48 UTC  

In BVR it would be a decent fight

2020-11-22 04:12:11 UTC  

Closer ranges eh not too good for the Tomcat

2020-11-22 04:12:25 UTC  

But once a close quarters dogfight is brought into the equation (yes they are rare) the 14 would just not have the AOA for the job

2020-11-22 04:13:30 UTC  

If the F-14 has an exceptional pilot then the Su-35 would lose.

2020-11-22 04:13:32 UTC  

Sure the missile ain't capable enough but it's long range enough to keep him on its toes

2020-11-22 04:14:50 UTC  

Now a really underated plane is the F-35

2020-11-22 04:14:57 UTC  

Agreed

2020-11-22 04:15:21 UTC  

Arguably the only plane better than the F-35 is the F-22.

2020-11-22 04:15:37 UTC  

The C variant and the A variant are the best because their wingspan is optimal for CAS and Dogfights

2020-11-22 04:16:03 UTC  

B variant is just to give USMC a placebo

2020-11-22 04:16:15 UTC  

And to Export

2020-11-22 04:16:36 UTC  

F-22 should be Mass produced again

2020-11-22 04:16:45 UTC  

Don't care how expensive

2020-11-22 04:17:19 UTC  

The US made a huge mistake by not producing more F-22s. They should have developed its air to ground capability and cut 350 F-35s in exchange for another 200 F-22s

2020-11-22 04:17:54 UTC  

The B only exists for the USMC obsession with STOL operations

2020-11-22 04:18:08 UTC  

I think they've learned with the F-X though. That plane will be insane with the capabilities it'll bring to the table.

2020-11-22 04:18:25 UTC  

F-22 can Carry SLAM-ER under its wings and GBU-32's in its internal weapons bay

2020-11-22 04:19:07 UTC  

I know this because of Over-G fighters

2020-11-22 04:21:26 UTC  

In Canada we have neglected the CF-18 replacement so now we will be flying our CF-18A and Bs until 2032

2020-11-22 04:23:33 UTC  

Weren't you guys going to choose any of these 3?:

Gripen E
F/A18E Block 3
F-35

2020-11-22 04:25:22 UTC  

Honestly I think the Canadians should go for the block 3 solely because of commonality.

2020-11-22 04:26:23 UTC  

I would like us to procure ideally 70 F/A-18Es and 10 Fs block three along with ten growlers

2020-11-22 04:26:46 UTC  

And if we had more funding then we could also do a split buy with 50 F-35As

2020-11-22 04:27:45 UTC  

I heard that Canada builds parts for the F35 already which also makes it another easy selection

2020-11-22 04:28:37 UTC  

I have been in a facility which produces them, we have quite the infrastructure in place producing them

2020-11-22 04:28:50 UTC  

We also produce hard points

2020-11-22 04:30:31 UTC  

Honestly the F-35A would be a good fit. At this point the Trudeau government needs to stop being indecisive

2020-11-22 04:31:24 UTC  

The more people buy the F35 the cheaper it gets

2020-11-22 04:33:19 UTC  

But there are some serious concerns regarding arctic operations with the single engine. We learned well that with the F-104 (although the F135 is extremely reliable) that a single engine can be a great weakness

2020-11-22 04:36:00 UTC  

Yeah, the same concerns of the navy with the flame out