The supposed end stage

Communism is when the state’s role is pretty much over, and since left wing people tend to think long term, it can take a lot until their dream will finally be achieved (if it even can be achieved!)

We have never reached communism, they are only called the Communist Party because that is their end goal.

Greedy governments never move to it

Even the most selfless person can’t be like that when they’ve got power

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Greed, corruption, tyranny, and oppression are concepts inherent in communism

It never changes

Oppression of thought is far more important than oppression based on the fact you’re of a specific class or state!

I consider everyone to be equal but there gotta be a hierarchy

But some are more equal than others

Some people will think highly of some and lowly of others

wait what are we talking about

communism's flaws

About how communism is bad and why

Turns out people prefer to have class mobility

And not have the government boss them around

^

I can be an egalitarian without the government forcing that on me. Libertarian socialism would be the only one I’d support

It's so funny of the hypocrisies that develop in communist system like China

Worker self management doesn’t sound too bad actually

Order is needed

Critical to order is a hierarchy

Yes

The only thing that stops people from ranking hierarchies isn’t the bias of others; it’s their own will.

If they want to make it big, they can do that. They have equal chances of getting big, they only need to *gasp* work hard and be determined!

Communism works in the workplace, you know, where it was designed to be used. It will never however, be a viable solution for running a nation

Well unions need a vibe check

The unions think they are in control

Imagine if we had union unions

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Here's a fun example of a good union

A union of different unions

Little Wisconsin railroad named the Green Bay & Western

Small town railroad had to negotiate with unions

Union rep compromised with railroad management

> Communism works in the workplace, you know, where it was designed to be used. It will never however, be a viable solution for running a nation
@ThiccSpicyGenderRevealParty so communism can work in a school, for example? Or in a company?

Why should unions compromise with management?

Balancing interests

Too in favor of worker = ruinous labor costs, benefits, entitlements

Too in favor of company = less safety, longer hours, less pay, crappier policies