no socialism is bad, but restirictions on captilism like minimum wage, no child labor, workers rights etc are pretty cool

Socialism economically? Probably won't work

Eh, you be you, everyone with their ideas

Who cares? 🤷‍♂️

well we can discuss why you hold these ideas

i mean it's pretty important

marx himself said to overturn capitalism is by a revolution so a lot deaths

destroyed capital

Venezuela saddled their economy for decades, and it has burst now

Of course true capitalism doesn't work <:KEK:726877368601411624>
I don't know anyone who truly believes otherwise

A universal basic income would make a loop where you’re essentially paying yourself through taxes.

Yeah, those deaths are... kinda the norm in a revolution... democratic socialism is basically hoping you can have socialism without a revolution

amen, again, I am not defdending socilism, I am defend certain checks and balences to create a better captilist system

democratic socialism is not socialism

Electing tyranny is no better than tyranny fighting it's way in

I’m getting deradicalized right now

You seem like centrists

@SPRTNWRRYR1974 yeah, but the people who got fucked over get money, and the people who fucked them over lose money

I'm very centrist, but I come off as conservative

@LuckyPuffy I mean you can, it's legislation, though I am not on board with socialism

Socially conservative

I'm left, but moderate

Yeah, a social democrat

Yeah that makes more sense

such diversity of thought, I love it

i feel like socialism denies the right to a person for them to be awarded for their competence if you see what i mean

i get that

I believe in the concept of meritocracy, and often than not, people cheat their way in capitalism.

Yeah, it interferes with merit

My friend said socialism works like this: in capitalism, you get roughly 2/3 of your income. In socialism, you get 1/3.

I personally think we should keep captilism but heavily tax the 1% and socialize medicine, and maybe if it's going well, some schools and collages

I don’t get how having a free house is interfering with merit. Everyone deserves housing.

@SPRTNWRRYR1974 pretty good anaology, and in soviet russian income gets you

And yeah, the state shouldn’t mandate you a job, if you want a job, you should freely look for it and be hired based on your competence. That’s what I think.

But democratically having decisions in the office, that sounds good to me.

What if we prioritize education so that people can treat many of their own ailments? Obviously you can’t teach everyone to be a doctor, but a few years of medical courses would go a long way.

the reason my grandfather loved the navy so much was it was a fully functioning meritocracy

How so?

i mean dude... i wish i could give everyone everything. however the economic problem is that there are unlimited wants and limited resources and allocating resources based on what people don't have reduces the incentive

The only good hierarchy for me is the one based on how much each contributes to the society.

it just was, the higher ups were the best