abortion topic always gets me heated

personally I am pro choice.... but government should NOT fund any abortions.... period

personally i don't think anyone should be allowed to kill another person

I am very on the fence... I would never get an abortion, but I also see the other side of the arguement

unless it's self defense lol

i mean we've known since the beginning of time how babies are made

That's my argument against abortion: don't let the baby die until after birth, and make the mother kill it with their own hands. If that seems extreme, then that's how most christians view abortion.

I am also under the opinion that no one should have causal sexual relations with people too

i believe the moment of conception that's another little human that has the right to live and grow

by the time the mom knows the baby has already grown to have a heartbeat

In my agnostic atheist personal opinion I see it as, Don’t abort unless it threatens the mother’s life or was the result of rape

i can understand rape/incest

i mean abortion because of that

but i don't agree with it

Well in short

but i understand it

> In my agnostic atheist personal opinion I see it as, Don’t abort unless it threatens the mother’s life or was the result of rape
@Max4Z yea.... agreed

Abortion is kinda bad

The morning after pill does exist too

^

I don't understand why people don't just go out and get one after an unwanted encounter

a big issue is casual sex.... or women who are prostitutes

It should honestly be standard police procedure to offer one to a rape victim tbh

Condoms then birth control, plan b pill, many different options

it is

if the victim goes to the hospital for a rape kit they'll give her meds for std's and plan b

> I don't understand why people don't just go out and get one after an unwanted encounter
@KumquatLord well.... my birth mother can give you that answer... I am the product of such an encounter

but even some religious folk say plan b is technically abortion because it only prevents implantation it doesn't prevent fertilization

well religious folk need to drop it... because what about miscarriages then?

miscarriages aren't controllable

Yea so some peoples influences are religious, my background has been pretty agnostic non religious for a long time

i like to use science, fertilization is when the baby was created, the beginning of our life

there is a reason religion and state were SUPPOSED to be separate.....

yeah people were trying to force a company to pay for their employees birth control

and it was denied because of religious freedom

meh I am just a fencer on the abortion issue... I would never get one but I see both sides

yeah i'm just explaining my view

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> That's just a dusting.
@Froski -.- you say that now.... and then you cry about having to shovel your driveway