Message from @Dante

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2020-10-28 13:58:07 UTC  

He voted McMullin in 2016 and Romney in 2012 so he leans right. Although he wishes he never voted for Romney

2020-10-28 13:58:25 UTC  

Well, the first obvious reason is that isn't the way that the US is set up, or has ever been set up. If it was, then people would just start accusing people left and right and ruining lives. Then any cop that killed someone, no matter their innocence or guilt, will be justified because guilty until proven innocent.

2020-10-28 13:58:55 UTC  

He who is who he is (joe Biden)

2020-10-28 13:59:00 UTC  

@The_Foxxo so ur just saying that its innocent until proven guilty or is the guy ur arguing agianst making points?

2020-10-28 13:59:01 UTC  

Lol

2020-10-28 13:59:15 UTC  

yoda : HMMM ! HE IS WHO HE IS ! YES !

2020-10-28 13:59:27 UTC  

XD

2020-10-28 14:00:03 UTC  

well Im not arguing with him atm , it was an old argument I had but now I saw a vid from Zed and thta lawyer and I was hoping he will come with some arguments but he only showed what stupid things the laweyer did

2020-10-28 14:00:23 UTC  

i think joe tried to say a palindrome but he failed

2020-10-28 14:00:35 UTC  

Dont spoil the video but ok

2020-10-28 14:00:37 UTC  

but he was making the case that since we put them under arrest we pressume they are guilty adn they have to probve thier inocence

2020-10-28 14:01:15 UTC  

Yeah thats stupid because we shouldnt lock them up untill there is hardcore evidence that they are guilty

2020-10-28 14:01:53 UTC  

he was saying that when we arrest them we assume they are guilty

2020-10-28 14:01:58 UTC  

foxxo , i don't ... know what you're talking about , can you tell us again what you're talking about ?

2020-10-28 14:02:03 UTC  

No. We arrest people to charge them. @The_Foxxo the easiest argument, from a legal standpoint is who holds the burden? Nobody needs to prove their innocence. The prosecution must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. A defense can literally sit there and poke holes throughout a trial.

2020-10-28 14:02:07 UTC  

srsly , i don't get it

2020-10-28 14:02:37 UTC  

I was talking

2020-10-28 14:02:41 UTC  

about the stupid notion

2020-10-28 14:02:42 UTC  

of

2020-10-28 14:02:47 UTC  

guilty until proven innocoent

2020-10-28 14:03:03 UTC  

isn't that how the media treats trump?

2020-10-28 14:03:16 UTC  

@The_Foxxo i mean we do but if we see something like video evidence and witnesses i think er have enough evidence

2020-10-28 14:03:31 UTC  

Also the media absolutly hates trump

2020-10-28 14:03:45 UTC  

Or atleast some of them

2020-10-28 14:03:51 UTC  

Fox likes him

2020-10-28 14:04:00 UTC  

ye ye we know the media hates trump not new

2020-10-28 14:04:06 UTC  

but before they get to the trial

2020-10-28 14:04:19 UTC  

their arrest is based on them assuming he is guilty

2020-10-28 14:04:23 UTC  

thats waht he was sayin

2020-10-28 14:04:39 UTC  

So who's going to cunity college?

2020-10-28 14:04:52 UTC  

@The_Foxxo No. Arrests are made based on probable cause.

2020-10-28 14:04:54 UTC  

Lol

2020-10-28 14:04:55 UTC  

is that what they call it?

2020-10-28 14:05:19 UTC  

@Froski explain to me probable cause like I eat glue for a living and liek Biden

2020-10-28 14:05:34 UTC  

Its what joe calls it

2020-10-28 14:07:34 UTC  

<:YouKnowTheThing:723005092764319776>

2020-10-28 14:08:39 UTC  

I've got to go see you guys around

2020-10-28 14:08:43 UTC  

Probable Cause is the standard that police officers follow when making an arrest. Basically, what their report needs to include. For example, in a drunk driving case, they must show that they had reasonable suspicion to stop the vehicle, for example, swerving or speeding. Then the probable cause would be the evidence showing that there is a case, such as failed sobriety tests, blood alcohol content, etc. The officers simply arrest for charging, then 9 times out 10, the person is released or given a bail amount to pay.

Then when charged, a prosecuting attorney has the ability to look at the report, ie look at what probable cause there was to make an arrest, then determine whether the facts or potential evidence point to a guilty conviction by a reasonable doubt.

2020-10-28 14:08:52 UTC  

> No. We arrest people to charge them. @The_Foxxo the easiest argument, from a legal standpoint is who holds the burden? Nobody needs to prove their innocence. The prosecution must prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. A defense can literally sit there and poke holes throughout a trial.
@Froski thanks bot

2020-10-28 14:09:24 UTC  

hey JoeMama

2020-10-28 14:09:29 UTC  

Hey dante