When almost all of the world's ideology came from them

Democracy

> When almost all of the world's ideology came from them
@Black Box Painting from USA and UK?

@Alexis Fontana Western world

Yes but americans can at least articulate it

Democracy orignated in Greece didn't it?

like most things

Communism and Capitalism

@Simpnautica yeah

@Simpnautica Greece is dead

dude wtf happened to greece isn't cracy

They immigrants are just gonna keep pouring into Europe

pretty sure they got fucked over by the Euro

Eu sucka

Sucks

It's not even a Democracy

Well the US is not also a Democracy

But they're way different

Good Morning people hows it going

Electoral college let you decide what your state should do

The more I hear about how awful the EU is the more I wonder how it still stands

And good morning @Jedi !

i mean the EU was good many years ago

Eu lets the Belgians decide what to do in you'r part of the union

it went down hill

Yup

@Simpnautica when it was just pure economics

Democracy as a greek idea is different than what's being applied in the states. The greek idea of democracy is hard to implement and will lead to failure

the EU is still kind of good, but they ask a lot

Yes, but now it's full of shitty policies

benefits probably JUST go over the negatives

It weird that alot of 3rd world nations blame 1st world for their problems

> i mean the EU was good many years ago
@Simpnautica Was it ever? I don’t remember voting for it. Every treaty of any nation should be re-voted every 10 years by its people to be valid. NAFTA, Asean, every treaty, even if it’s a big checklist where you have to vote by ticking yes in each box. Power to the people.

> It weird that alot of 3rd world nations blame 1st world for their problems
@Black Box Painting 😂 😂 😂

I had a friend from Czech who always complained about the migrants they were not allowed to arrest or turn away despite the fact they were doing criminal activity

> @Simpnautica Was it ever? I don’t remember voting for it. Every treaty of any nation should be re-voted every 10 years by its people to be valid. NAFTA, Asean, every treaty, even if it’s a big checklist where you have to vote by ticking yes in each box. Power to the people.
@Alexis Fontana yeah it was pretty good economically

When th 1st world tried to industrialise them

But nooo

We wanna rule our own

and when you have a good economy... you can have other nice things

And then go into a complete civil war