But I do think lgbt people are born that way

you have trenders and people who genuinely believe they're born gay

That’s sad

if someone is actually born gay, something is wrong with their thinking process/hormonal balance

It’s unnatural

meaning it's never normal

we are supposed to reproduce

> 60% of gays and bisexuals experience sexual abuse, assault
@Atari where did you get this number? just curious

I think it's just a hormonal imbalance

I dont think god would make people gay

I'm talking about how they are real, but you are more mad that its normalized, then attributing to it not being a natural occurence

If you have more estrogen as a male you're probably more likely to be gay

national institutes of health @SnowWhite❄

There’s certainly a possibly to be more feminine like but I can’t see it as a possibility that someone is truly gay. Their environment is what pushes them over the edge

Hormonal imbalance is at least more based in genetic science

> If you have more estrogen as a male you're probably more likely to be gay
@Riddle I wonder if lefties have less testosterone on average

That could be correct, I would like to see some research on that @Riddle

link?

@Dante LOL

@SnowWhite❄ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21247983/

@Jwolf I'll look into it, it's just an idea I had

60% experience sexual assault below the age of 18

that sucks 😦

I guess theres also a nature vs nurture debate

I dont think people are born gay, why would god make people bad sinners from day one on

Lets stop before we all go down the rabbit hole....

Exactly

Lol I'm gay and I haven't been assaulted at all, and grew up where being gay is looked down upon

I just thought it was a birth defect. But a hormonal imbalance would be a birth defect

sodomy is having sex but not reproducing, having gay sex is sodomy

it's a sin

Should still be looked down upon

> I dont think people are born gay, why would god make people bad sinners from day one on
@Karat isn't that what the snake and the apple are for?

jesus/god wouldn't create gay people

Yes

I have never experienced sexual assault.

Yeah, the hormonal imbalance is a birth defect

60%

Lol I'm still christian tho

These people don’t know numbers

I don't think God makes mistakes