They said they were socialist too which might add for something.

@Nuketheplanet wrong

Oof

But there was alot of government control so...

I think Trump is what we need right now, but I don't think I can put him into the top 5 until I see long term affects of his presidency

soviet union is socialist

second question:

was communism ever established

China is communist then?

China is capitalist with communistic values.

w r o n g

> was communism ever established
@Atari what do define as communism?

china claims it's a mixed economy between capitalism and communism, it's not

You*

capitalist and communism are literally oxymorons

Their massive economy was due to massive population and trade deals.

China is slowly becoming a mixed economy

Such as a free market

lol no

china isn't communist

And since then their economy has been thriving

communism defined by karl marx himself is a cashless, stateless and classless society

can u seriously say that china is stateless lol

The state sometimes intercepts what goes on with the chinese citizens.

it's a dictatorship

it's highly authoritarian

And totalitarian

no it's not even 'sometimes'

plus it's not cashless

All I'm saying is china is slowly putting free market in their economy

there's no need to define it into a particular category, it's an authoritarian dictatorship controlled by quasi oligarchs

in order to achieve a cashless society, the produce would be need to be created by machinery entirely

My opponent is a liar and he cannot be trusted <:dogekek:726878872607653918>

there would be no workers

They have been thriving because of their great trade deals.

AI would have to manage manufacturers

communism has never been achieved

They puts tarriffs on alot of places and also have lots of resources within the country.

next question:

No system is fully communist, socialist. Not even america is fully capitalist