Message from @Atari

Discord ID: 760967174797656145


2020-09-30 20:49:36 UTC  

hold it

2020-09-30 20:49:39 UTC  

China is capitalist y’all idiots

2020-09-30 20:49:44 UTC  

> why did venezeula, cuba, late soviet union and other countries fail with socialism

2020-09-30 20:49:45 UTC  

But people have argued demsoc has workes

2020-09-30 20:49:59 UTC  

Such as Norwey

2020-09-30 20:50:00 UTC  

Lmao, I said that donald.

2020-09-30 20:50:18 UTC  

Norway and Denmark are more capitalist than the USA is, they jsut have high taxes

2020-09-30 20:50:24 UTC  

Yes ik

2020-09-30 20:50:32 UTC  

bros, who's gonna answer my question

2020-09-30 20:50:37 UTC  

It's a mixed economy

2020-09-30 20:50:51 UTC  

it's not mixed, it's just a capitalist dictatorship

2020-09-30 20:50:58 UTC  

the government controls most of the economy

2020-09-30 20:51:14 UTC  

It's getting a little early for trivia.

2020-09-30 20:51:23 UTC  

Maybe if there are less people.

2020-09-30 20:51:30 UTC  

Isnt that the definition of socialism

2020-09-30 20:51:33 UTC  

?

2020-09-30 20:51:33 UTC  

no

2020-09-30 20:51:40 UTC  

socialism is where the means are production are communally owned

2020-09-30 20:51:45 UTC  

it means less state power

2020-09-30 20:51:51 UTC  

I think that's communism.

2020-09-30 20:51:52 UTC  

the state is only to manage political rivalry/military

2020-09-30 20:52:14 UTC  

no, communism is a stateless, cashless and classless society which has never happened

2020-09-30 20:52:17 UTC  

Socialism is government control.. which mean the govn't has control over the means of production.

2020-09-30 20:52:20 UTC  

socialism is the path to communism

2020-09-30 20:52:24 UTC  

^

2020-09-30 20:52:34 UTC  

and socialism isn't government control

2020-09-30 20:52:37 UTC  

the huge flaw with all of these systems, is that it requires the state to implement and then give away the power

2020-09-30 20:52:39 UTC  

that never happens

2020-09-30 20:52:40 UTC  

Yes in socialism the government has control of economy

2020-09-30 20:52:41 UTC  

it's authoritarian but they don't control the means of production

2020-09-30 20:52:42 UTC  

It was invented to change a Capitalist nation into a Communist nation.

2020-09-30 20:52:49 UTC  

it's owned by the people

2020-09-30 20:52:53 UTC  

you get paid for what you produce

2020-09-30 20:52:55 UTC  

not by the hour

2020-09-30 20:53:30 UTC  

okay so

2020-09-30 20:53:32 UTC  

next question

2020-09-30 20:53:32 UTC  

Pretty sure the government does take control.

2020-09-30 20:53:38 UTC  

> why did venezeula, cuba, late soviet union and other countries fail with socialism

2020-09-30 20:53:40 UTC  

My guy look it up

2020-09-30 20:54:06 UTC  

why dont you tell us, Atari.. since this is feeling like a seminar

2020-09-30 20:54:07 UTC  

In socialism the government owns means of production