Message from @johnfrum

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2017-12-12 02:04:05 UTC  

>small wealthy countries can afford to educate thier people better
>large relatively poor countries can't

2017-12-12 02:04:16 UTC  

This is why I don't like you.

2017-12-12 02:04:28 UTC  

any retard could sit at a desk and tap numbers into a spreadsheet

2017-12-12 02:04:38 UTC  

Do you know what simplifcation is though

2017-12-12 02:04:38 UTC  

why does that require degree

2017-12-12 02:04:46 UTC  

higher educatioin should be about what it says on the tin

2017-12-12 02:04:52 UTC  

when I send mainland chinks messages in traditional, they can read it no problem

2017-12-12 02:04:59 UTC  

not "prove you deserve this job by paying money"

2017-12-12 02:05:02 UTC  

@transience instead of pretty pictures it's now actual word sounds

2017-12-12 02:05:08 UTC  

Yes, that's better

2017-12-12 02:05:38 UTC  

simplification is still "pretty pictures" without the pretty part

2017-12-12 02:06:06 UTC  

also i wish we'd stop pressuring people to go to uni over trade school from such a ridiculous young age

2017-12-12 02:06:17 UTC  

@Kaytee yeah but piling on coursework to drive people further into debt isn't going to fix it though.

2017-12-12 02:06:23 UTC  

skilled trades are important and one can make a good living doing em

2017-12-12 02:06:37 UTC  
2017-12-12 02:06:49 UTC  

@johnfrum#8811 i mean that's not an issue with the coursework that's an issue with america's for-profit everything

2017-12-12 02:06:53 UTC  

if you can read one, chances are that you can read the other

2017-12-12 02:07:21 UTC  

JAKE FIX YOUR SHITTY FUCKING BOTNET

2017-12-12 02:07:28 UTC  

the only real benefit of simplification is less strokes

2017-12-12 02:07:33 UTC  

i.e. easier to write

2017-12-12 02:07:59 UTC  

It's also easier to read and more efficient. Thought pinyin was phonetic tho.

2017-12-12 02:08:14 UTC  

pinyin is phonetic

2017-12-12 02:08:16 UTC  

@Kaytee making it free won't fix anything though

2017-12-12 02:08:31 UTC  

You need to have a ground up social change

2017-12-12 02:08:57 UTC  

ye

2017-12-12 02:09:36 UTC  

Trying to change things by making school more tedious and longer in an attempt to instil logic will just make people hate college and increase the burden in the state if it was 'free'

2017-12-12 02:09:38 UTC  

F E E L T H E B E R N <:tipsfedora:383326576609329162>

2017-12-12 02:10:06 UTC  

@transience what the fuck is traditional?

2017-12-12 02:10:39 UTC  

Column on the left are traditional characters

2017-12-12 02:10:52 UTC  

as you can see, the traditional character for door looks like a gate or a door

2017-12-12 02:10:58 UTC  

not so much with the simplified variant

2017-12-12 02:11:09 UTC  

with simplification, the characters lose their meaning

2017-12-12 02:11:44 UTC  

this is where traditional loses me, how the fuck is that supposed to look like a door or a horse or a scholar?

2017-12-12 02:12:03 UTC  

Character for speech has the radical for language

2017-12-12 02:12:13 UTC  

with the simplified variant, it's just some line

2017-12-12 02:12:32 UTC  

that's one of the main arguments in favour of traditional

2017-12-12 02:12:49 UTC  

it's arguably harder to decipher the meaning when you don't have these features

2017-12-12 02:13:19 UTC  

The charecters didn't lose thier meaning, they became words instead of pictures.
Then again communists have universally terrible ideas so you might have a point

2017-12-12 02:14:20 UTC  

Oh, they're still pictures alright

2017-12-12 02:14:31 UTC  

but instead, they're like pictures of abstract art