lmao

kill urr slef

stabs are harder to predict tbh, someone can come at you with a rusty axe or a needle, hard to plan for both extremes

@johnfrum the one linked earlier

oh that will probably split

the like $175 wire welded tiny wires rings

yeah that's the one i was talking about a modern knife will go through like fkn butter

like i said, knives will cut sheet thicker than those rings

diffrence between sheet and mail

yeah, way less material to split

only have to break a couple rings to get through vs having to move a bunch of material out of the way in a sheet

mail doesnt work by stopping all stabs it works by letting the tip get trapped in a ring and having the rest of the mail absorb the blow.

tip won't get trapped in a ring it's cut apart

and then there's basically nothing but a 3-4 other equally weak thin rings stopping it going further

If mail was butter soft they would have stopped using it pretty damn fast, lad.

that maille linked earlier

not historical actual armour

that $175 cosplay shit

actual maille was v effective, duh, they used it for centuries

I thought we moved past that, I already said it probably wont stop anything even with padding

they would have stopped real quick if the real deal didn't work

real deal wasnt exactly magic hardened steel either though.

no, but it was much thicker and stronger

historic examples are pretty thin for what they were

and had thick layers of linen udnerneath that even on their own could stop most little jabs and stabs

was about to say the gambeson was what did a good bit of work

chain mail only worked super great against slashing attacks

eeeh, maille was pretty good shit tbh

really people don't give midieval armor enough credit, it was crazy good stuff, even the stuff d&d made everyone think was shit

it was great but heavy

not even heavy

and very expensive

tbh even the late midieval plate stuff was lighter and less cumbersome than all the shit soldiers wear today

yeah which adds to the weight

we're only talking like ~20kg here, distributed over the whole body fairly evenly

's really not that much when you consider that last bit, you could run around and hop and climb and everything with that on

but fighting from that time

meant you fought from sun up to sun down

every extra pound/kg counts

xucj

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