Message from @Ragnarok
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The Great Prussian Uprising of 1260-1275 initially had them driven back to their 5 strongest castles.
And another thing.
when Lithuanian kings showed interest in converting, the teutons would kill the messengers and so forth.
Referring to Jogalia and Vytautas, not the bullshit before
Soviet historiography did a lot of damage to describing that era, with a lot of bullshit in the books published.
There was a civil war between the two, Vytautas used the teutons a bit to his advantage.
at the time, majority of the pagan bit of GDL was converted to catholicism
Teuton's were like "gibs samogitia to us", because they needed a stable land bridge with their Livonian branch
they got it for a bit.
worst mistake they ever did.
It's not the best idea to have a monastic order as a government either
as it is not a stable land bridge.
Since monks don't marry and have kids
It was effective per se, but it had a lot of bullshit laws.
like for example prohibiting civvies from fishing.
You end up relying almost entirely on people taking vows to replace knights
yeah you had the Grosse freier and kleine freier
Instead of having a new knight some 18-21 years after you fuck your wife
they would let loose the little knight during their border raids which is the best they could do.
Along the river Neman.
So once you take some heavy losses of knights, you have lost a lot of elite troops with combat experience, and the only way to replace them is to have someone decide he wants to be poor and never have sex
Soviet history books portray them as blitzkrieg era krauts, which is bullshit. the tech on both sides were pretty much equal.
Probably identified them with Nazis
Yeah, that was the idea.
first recorded usage of gunpowder in europe: Battle of Crecy 1346. First recorded usage of gunpowder in GDL: Siege of Georgenburg, 1382
If you ever see the old russian film about Alexander Nevsky, the kraut helmets have hands on the top as their ornaments, and the actors held them when not wearing in such a way, that they would mimick sieg heiling.
Tannenberg lost them 8,000 knights. That's worse than Agincourt which devastated the French nobility. If France couldn't recover even having 10 kids each, then that's certainly a kick in the nuts to a monastic order.
I'm familiar with it but haven't watched it
the correct name for the 1410 battle is Grunwald.
as there was a WW1 engagement in the same area too.
that is referred as Tannenberg
Durbe, another famous battle cost Livonians 150 knights. Knights alone. now add 10 retainers to them.
each.
I remember that name from Kingdom Come Deliverance
funny thing, Hussites declared Vytautas to be the king of Czechia.
I'd rather lose 150 than 8,000
You can at least hire mercenaries to replace 150
or use local auxilliaries.
You lose 8,000 monastic knights you're done
You ain't coming back from that
but still, at the time Livonian order, was pretty much fucked, so that battle was a killing blow to them