Yeah I see that now.

That's what everyone is getting wrapped around the axle about. It's about arguing that the certifications are bullshit, not that they don't exist

As they are.

Right

So, the ball is in Pence's court now. It's up to him at this point.

If Trump doesn't seem rattled by it, nobody else should.

It's really up to members of the GOP to be courageous enough to stand up and object

It only takes one house member and one senate member to contest electors.

Yes

But then they have to debate it

We have enough to make it a problem - we just need turtle shell McConnell to have balls.

But it takes a majority of both houses to overturn a contested vote

Indeed.

I've pretty much accepted that we probably lost

Time to prep more for the war

But it's not about turning over a contested vote - state legislatures are still going through their processes.

The contingent election isn't what Rudy was even going for.

We are at the same place as 2 weeks ago

The idea behind it is to force enough gridlock to bring it to a state by state vote.

Because then the Dems majority in the House is meaningless

Pence himself can force each legislature into special sessions - this is before each chamber gets involved.

As Trump's legal team has been doing since the election.

No he can't. He cannot force a state legislature to have a special session. That would be into actual dictator territory

If that was possible, it would have probably been already done

Unless the split electors meme wasn't real, then I believe you.

The split Electors is significant because it more or less sets the stage for some gridlock on the 6th

It's more the function over the form

We'll see how it goes until then.

If we get a win and some states manage to officially decertify their results, then it becomes easier

What twists my ass is when low-energy people get tired of the fight two months in.

I've been fighting with the VA to cover my neuropathy for 10 years now.

I aint tired, just concerned

You know what I'm talking about: tons of doomers.

We are not in a good spot. That's for sure. But it was never going to be easy

They got excited and then had a fucking melt down when the Texas case got pushed back to the lower court.

Exactly lmao

That's why Ive been trying to tell people the truth about this Pence card thing. To slap some black pills out of the mouth

that was depressingly funny

We're not in a good spot as a country, but on the Trump train I think we're fine.

We are not on as solid ground as we should be

We weren't going to be anyway.

Honestly if we do lose I hope we seceded