I got confused Lol

We have a pretty good life expectancy here, right?

@Anguished Art Student no don't be sorry :)

I know, but its America. People are very defensive over that sort of thing.

If one thing can really define our culture, its rebellion. Lol

Lmao, you take the risk and go outside when you're vulnerable, well too bad. It shouldn't be the governments job to force people

Right. Then theres the issue of overburdening healthcare though

Maybe it's different for me. Everyone in Canada is too obedient without questioning anything so it's the exact opposite

True, the purpose of a government is to dictate & limit. Not control.

The people that land in ICU are people with pre-existing conditions and the elderly

So it still goes back to them

I have yet to see a case of anyone under 35 in the ICU for covid

In my hospital at least

Interesting...

@Anguished Art Student also just an FYI that at the start of covid, they were declaring all deaths as covid deaths and I'm not sure why. Just something to ponder about

Meaning they didn't bother to do autopsies and just declared them as covid deaths

is this even a debate

There is also the issue of flawed testing where they have false positives, even for people who skipped testing altogether

We are discussing things to see where our opinions may differ. That is where debate begins.

@Mystika, this is the same government that tried to hide COVID, saying it would pass in a couple months... -I’m not surprised

Idk if that's because the risk of the autopsy if the patient did have covid was big, like many people didn't want to do the autopsy in case they did have covid because we didn't know much about the virus back then

@Anguished Art Student I live in Canada

Ohhh

We also said it would pass soon here

And everywhere in the world said that

They weren't hiding covid. They were up front about it being an issue while trying to remain optimistic. Look at where the fear got us: empty store shelves, no toilet paper, people panicking, etc.

The American government acted similar to the rest of the world when handling covid, but no other government got as much hate

I love Americans but y'all just love to hate LMAO

Because no other country had a guy that claims windmills where dangerous as president

We closed the borders pretty quickly due to covid. What happened? There were claims of xenophobia while democrats urged people to go to chinatown and dance with asians to fight racism.

Trump dealt with covid fine, and honestly better than other nations

not really

he was a bad example

@toasttrtf How so?

thats it

the thing is

And his fucking Twitter posts don't count

ppl read them

i know

Bad example?

but its not like he could really do anything