Message from @JustaSpy
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the thing about brain dead patients is that not are they only a vegitible they have a .00001% chance of getting out of it
see how the bonfire responds to "up to the mother"
where as in the natural process of development one grows a brain
Exactly, there is a chance of viability
im sure a bonfire is just a bonfire and wont care about your arguments
And yet there are still familial rights
and even then im pretty against pulling the plug
being pro choice is by definition being an accessory to murder
Those same rights should apply equally in all circumstances
but the problem is if someone was aware they could of written a will
the unborn cant write a will
so obviously this isnt the same thing
Yeah but not everyone who becomes brain dead has a will
So that’s an argument that goes nowhere
like i said lets make the standard brain dead before birth and brain dead after birth the standard
if the brain hasnt formed yet its still protected
if the brain is dead and has been there for years thats not the same thing
the only reason the family is the go to is because the person in the condition cannot speak for themself
like i said elderly brain dead is a grey area abortion is not
there is nothing more evil than abortion
i would argue her life matters
"A persons a person no matter how small"
^
if you dont stand by 'a persons a person no matter how small" there are some means of "negotiating opinions with exceptional methods"
namely apple peelers, waterboarding, gasoline and matches
Ok but it isn’t a person
It’s barely an embryo
you wouldnt be saying that after 2 days straight of waterboarding
A small person would be a baby
A baby isn’t what we’re arguing about here
fetus means baby in latin
the only answer to slavery of innocent is abolition
the only answer to murder of innocent is abolition
the word negotiable does not apply in this matter
but we are, it's only a baby at it's first stages
He means a person as an animal
I had to take social science
Lol focus on the family?