Message from @Desperado Dave

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2020-09-11 03:03:23 UTC  

but at the same time Rand had tendencies similar to communism, namely, a disdain for religion

2020-09-11 03:03:46 UTC  

in her philsophical worldview "altruism" is considerred by her as a weakness

2020-09-11 03:04:51 UTC  

very individualistic then

2020-09-11 03:04:57 UTC  

no

2020-09-11 03:05:06 UTC  

moreso cold and calculated view of capitalism

2020-09-11 03:05:48 UTC  

no morality, no religion, etc. because it is "altruistic". Her philsophy could be summed up with the belief that "greed is good"

2020-09-11 03:06:40 UTC  

well that would be considered as having a selfish view of the world and being individualistic, correct?

2020-09-11 03:07:23 UTC  

not entirely, a selfish view yes, in her philsophy selfishness is considerred good

2020-09-11 03:07:31 UTC  

because it is

2020-09-11 03:07:42 UTC  

no one else will care for you if you dont care for yourself

2020-09-11 03:07:55 UTC  

theres levels to this though

2020-09-11 03:07:59 UTC  

i suppose there is a bit on the emphasis of individualism, but it's not the entire point like many leftwing ideologies.

2020-09-11 03:08:13 UTC  

yea that be a good way to put it is levels to it

2020-09-11 03:08:33 UTC  

because an individual could be very religious or "altruistic" and this is viewed negatively in Ayn Rand's philsophy

2020-09-11 03:11:31 UTC  

religion is the heroin of the masses, you need to take into account why she disagrees with it. She is all about individualism, religion is do what everyone else is doing.

2020-09-11 03:12:02 UTC  

look at old pictures of the churches and what they were doing to the people who didnt fall in line

2020-09-11 03:12:12 UTC  

well that's probably because of her background in communism, and is a curious connection to communism she stil lretained

2020-09-11 03:12:24 UTC  

after all it was Karl Marx whom said that religion is the opiate of the masses

2020-09-11 03:12:32 UTC  

they were oppressive forces telling lies to control the masses

2020-09-11 03:12:42 UTC  

you are correct that this was Rand's view, but it is the communist view

2020-09-11 03:12:51 UTC  

yeah he pointed it out, thats how they controled people

2020-09-11 03:13:09 UTC  

no, she was anti communist lol

2020-09-11 03:13:21 UTC  

thats precisely why she supported individualism

2020-09-11 03:13:39 UTC  

lol well i beleive it's rather that the communists cannot control God, this is why the leftwing hates religion, it is too far out of their control

2020-09-11 03:13:40 UTC  

she came from communism and escaped to America

2020-09-11 03:13:40 UTC  

lol

2020-09-11 03:14:13 UTC  

right, that's why even though she was a detractor of communism she curiously still had some communist beliefs

2020-09-11 03:14:19 UTC  

you need to spend some time doing research on the torture that these churches inflicted on the people who didn't agree with them

2020-09-11 03:14:30 UTC  

freedom of religion, yeah kind of a big deal

2020-09-11 03:14:37 UTC  

i feel she had shady ties

2020-09-11 03:15:17 UTC  

i am familiar with the crusades and inquisition and witch trials. contrary to the atheistic modern view, actually most the witches and heretics were actually witches and heretics

2020-09-11 03:15:24 UTC  

proudly confessing it at that

2020-09-11 03:16:16 UTC  

but that may be peculiar to white people, the sort of inner white struggle between their ancient pagan past and their rise to glory when they converted to Christianity

2020-09-11 03:17:09 UTC  

and of course as we have seen in the last two centuries, their ignominous fall from grace and degeneration that will probably play a part in the Apocalypse.

2020-09-11 03:19:21 UTC  

this started as a benign convo. Bro you lost me

2020-09-11 03:19:23 UTC  

lol

2020-09-11 03:22:26 UTC  

Religion was torturing everyone around the world, thats the context of why Karl said religion is an opiate for the masses

2020-09-11 03:22:34 UTC  

he was correct

2020-09-11 03:22:52 UTC  

well the entire point of leftwing ideology is focused in the Struggle