and so all the evil of the fallen state kigndom of Babylon shall be thrown into the lake of fire to be tormented for the eternity and the just will be resurrected to live eternally in God's perfect Kingdom as his children with God face to face forever

lol no flesh can bear the face of the Father and live, not even the most righteous

You said creation is corrupted. How come God created the earth even tho he knew it is corrupt?

in the Bible the closest mortal that coems to seeing God is Moses of course, but Moses could only see a part of God, he was not allowed to see his face as God warns "lest he die"

the earth was originally good and not corrupt when God created it

this bring us back to Genesis 3, and the ultimate fault of the evil dragon that told the first lies to corrupt the creation, and the woman and the man both disobeying God and becoming corrupted and having to die at least once

Its inconsistent. Let me ask you this tho. Is creation corrupt?

it is not inconsistent, yes the creation is corrupt

Okay so when god creates, he corrupts also?

no, when God first created all the creation he pronounced it good

But you said that creation is corrupt

and it was good and man and woman were good and they could lived forever

So when God created earth and the animals and so on it means he also corrupted it

they became corrupted when theorder of God was disobeyed and flipped on its head by Satan targetting and lying to the woman to turn her against the man and he also disobeyed and that's when the creation became corrupted

I get that but I dont get the creation part. If creation is corrupt, then that also means that god, he who created earth also corrupted it by creating it

no it doesn't if God created the creation orginalyl as good and uncorrupted and gave them the fruit of life, which indeed he did

it's by their disobedience to God that the creation became corrupt

Then creation doesnt = corrupt

Oh damn im blue

anyway

So yea

this creation is corrupt because it got corrupted and death and evil enterred the world by disobedience to God

I understand that. But when god created it doesnt mean it is also corrupt.

and the disobedience was caused by Satan, the old dragon lying to the woman, whom then got the man to disobey God also. The original good order was God --> Man --->Woman ---> Animals and Plants and all authority over the earth

You forgot the children no?

God --> Man --->Woman ---> Children ---> Animals and Plants and all authority over the earth

Or is that wrong

thus we can see Satan basicalyl flipped the script which made the fallen state, his kigndom of lies putting himself an animal in authority, then the woman, and then the man, and trying to make them forget about Lord God and rebel against him

well children came after the fall of the creation

but that is indeed the right order

amazing. Thank you for explaining

no problem, you ask good questions, a smarter conversation than i normally have

Well I try to understand it. Im no christian by all means and I dont want to demean christianity. That is wrong

Christianity is the truth, but Christianity is often deeper than or even at odds with the stone churches of today

but this is ironically (or unironically) prophesied to happen near the end

I gotta say. Christianity and how it is explained, its kinda badass

it is fairly badass, the Bible is a great book and true and good to learn

Ive seen many that try to explain it. But are mostly inconsistent.

there's big difference between what the Bible say and to use a JLP term, what the hoopin' and hollering ones say lol

Yours tho, was mostly consistent

Thank you for that