Message from @Japheth

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2020-10-24 05:05:31 UTC  

so depending on whether you're the one getting attacked or attacking there's different traumas from this

2020-10-24 05:06:58 UTC  

conflict and argument is the lifeblood of the drama of war, war itself is an argument

2020-10-24 05:07:26 UTC  

Dudes kill each other for being in the wrong neighborhood it’s insanity

2020-10-24 05:07:38 UTC  

So dumb

2020-10-24 05:07:46 UTC  

to settle the conflict there are two ways; resolution and victory

2020-10-24 05:08:22 UTC  

resolution is the parties end the argument by some resolution, an instrument of law, a treaty, concessions, etc.

2020-10-24 05:08:29 UTC  

victory is of course one side prevails and wins

2020-10-24 05:08:39 UTC  

the other side is totally defeated

2020-10-24 05:08:43 UTC  

resolution > victory

2020-10-24 05:08:49 UTC  

sadly tho humans are humans

2020-10-24 05:09:03 UTC  

well the new way of warfare post-ww2 is indeed mostly on resolution

2020-10-24 05:09:14 UTC  

and perhaps this is why they have the eternal world war going on and fracture of states

2020-10-24 05:09:35 UTC  

now they just fight w money cus no one wants a nuclear winter

2020-10-24 05:09:42 UTC  

victory is the most preferable outcome of war, because it is the end of the conflict for good, the other side ceases to exist, the conflict/argument ceases to exist

2020-10-24 05:10:08 UTC  

unless your Germany

2020-10-24 05:10:31 UTC  

well Germany was totally defeated, the allies had total victory over germany

2020-10-24 05:10:45 UTC  

Ww1 or 2

2020-10-24 05:10:53 UTC  

WW2 is the last major war with decisive victory

2020-10-24 05:10:57 UTC  

Didn’t they lose ww1 then hitler came

2020-10-24 05:11:21 UTC  

yea they lost ww1 and ww1 ended by concession before germany was invaded and conquered

2020-10-24 05:11:27 UTC  

and this set the stage of course for ww2

2020-10-24 05:11:59 UTC  

no one gives Russia credit for ww2 how many people died in that war is insane

2020-10-24 05:12:38 UTC  

the USSR has gotten their credit in recent decades, for ww2 history nerds a lot of the soviet documents got permitted and opened in about 2010s

2020-10-24 05:13:38 UTC  

Idk I just feel uneducated people on the topic leave out Russia and just think of Britain France and the US

2020-10-24 05:13:46 UTC  

Britain and France didn’t do shit in comparison

2020-10-24 05:14:03 UTC  

there was a really good documentary with rare footage and former soldiers on the Eastern Front from all sides; nazis, soviets, partisans, etc.

2020-10-24 05:14:17 UTC  

it was called War of the Century but youtube pulled it years a go sadly

2020-10-24 05:14:23 UTC  

i'll see if i can find it though

2020-10-24 05:14:37 UTC  

easily one of the best, if not the best documentary i ever seen

2020-10-24 05:14:43 UTC  

brilliantly put together

2020-10-24 05:14:49 UTC  

Dam why would they do that, must be so cool seeing it in video, pictures are one thing but a video damn

2020-10-24 05:15:17 UTC  

i think copyright

2020-10-24 05:15:21 UTC  

it was a professionally done one

2020-10-24 05:15:22 UTC  

OFC

2020-10-24 05:15:25 UTC  

and probably controversy

2020-10-24 05:15:33 UTC  

god damn copyright

2020-10-24 05:15:36 UTC  

i mean they say some crazy shit

2020-10-24 05:16:09 UTC  

it focuses on the Nazi vs Soviet story heavily, just a duel of two evil empries really in an ever violently downward spinning maelstrom

2020-10-24 05:16:39 UTC  

Was Us considered allies w Russia

2020-10-24 05:16:46 UTC  

Or more like I won’t fuck w u if you don’t

2020-10-24 05:17:12 UTC  

yes controversially so