Message from @Japheth

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2020-10-24 05:23:57 UTC  

In 2020 that’s rare to see

2020-10-24 05:24:08 UTC  

lol

2020-10-24 05:24:23 UTC  

well racism arguably doesn't exist, the ism shit is postmodern

2020-10-24 05:24:38 UTC  

but slavery in the US was indeed race basedm pretty obviously

2020-10-24 05:25:08 UTC  

though at the same time it wasn't for the whole US either, but that famous matter of states rights

2020-10-24 05:25:20 UTC  

Yeah they tried native Americans first but they would get sick, wasn’t bc of their race for choosing blacks it was just the best choice

2020-10-24 05:25:28 UTC  

hence it became an issue that was at the heart of the first US Cvil War

2020-10-24 05:25:31 UTC  

But I still believe racism was prevalent then

2020-10-24 05:25:54 UTC  

well no, the spaniards enslaved the native americans and mixed with them

2020-10-24 05:26:00 UTC  

the french and the english not so much

2020-10-24 05:26:10 UTC  

I remember learning they did at first

2020-10-24 05:26:38 UTC  

and then when America proper was founded it was indeed conceived of as a white country, hence some of the argument to not even slavery to begin with since it obviously undermines that

2020-10-24 05:26:42 UTC  

But they kept escaping bc they knew the land

2020-10-24 05:27:12 UTC  

lol no the natives were expelled from the eastern seaboard famously by Andrew Jackson, the Trail of Tears

2020-10-24 05:27:31 UTC  

Before the trail of tears

2020-10-24 05:27:36 UTC  

I’m talking early on

2020-10-24 05:27:39 UTC  

it's because before America in the French and Indian War there was a loto f problems with them, and even after

2020-10-24 05:27:56 UTC  

technicalyl the Indian Wars are the longest series of wars in US History

2020-10-24 05:28:13 UTC  

It was fucked ngl

2020-10-24 05:28:26 UTC  

They’d give money for the scalps of natives like wtf

2020-10-24 05:28:31 UTC  

no there were still native tribes until trail of tears, but they had various alliances and agreements with the varying european powers and eachother

2020-10-24 05:28:40 UTC  

some tribes favored the french, some favored the english

2020-10-24 05:28:47 UTC  

some had old rivalries agaisnt one another

2020-10-24 05:29:17 UTC  

plus it is noted that the natives of north america were semitic featured, which would make them ideological not enslaveable

2020-10-24 05:29:50 UTC  

did u know they wouldn’t allow black people to practice Christianity

2020-10-24 05:30:13 UTC  

the blacks were seen as enslaveable because they are the sons of Ham, they were backwards a/f, tribal, and viewed as ill-suited to the higher functions of a civilization, especialyl a white civilization

2020-10-24 05:30:40 UTC  

right it was illegal to convert slaves, it was ilelgal to teach them to read or write, and so forth

2020-10-24 05:30:47 UTC  

this is because they're slaves

2020-10-24 05:31:20 UTC  

Don’t blame them for not being ill suited lol they got stolen from Africa

2020-10-24 05:31:36 UTC  

though some of the southerners did of course break those rules pretty famously, either for religious reasons converting and teaching them literacy, or of course the ones that fell in love with their slaves

2020-10-24 05:31:41 UTC  

If they wanted to they could have taught them to read, to be converted

2020-10-24 05:31:47 UTC  

which actualyl saucy as it is, was not that uncommon

2020-10-24 05:31:47 UTC  

To be contributing members of society

2020-10-24 05:32:16 UTC  

well no because that is pointless, they weren't supposed to be memebrs of society ever

2020-10-24 05:32:28 UTC  

Oops 🙃

2020-10-24 05:32:44 UTC  

There were some free blacks that’s not true

2020-10-24 05:32:44 UTC  

it's the argument of they should be here to begin with (anti-slavery) vs. well let me bring the blatts over here but i promise i will just make them slave caste (pro-slavery)

2020-10-24 05:33:08 UTC  

After their indentured servitude was up some led normal life’s before slavery

2020-10-24 05:33:15 UTC  

legally they couldn’t be bound

2020-10-24 05:34:01 UTC  

for a while the compromise was the pro slave people had their states the Old South and the pro-white states had the Old North, but then of course the South betray America because a Republican get elected and during the war the slaves are freed since the institution of slavery transfer over to the enemy regime which was soundly defeated

2020-10-24 05:34:06 UTC  

slavery is just so fucked to begin with