don't need no pharisee "hidden knowledge" to understand it, the narrative is clear by itself, by how Noah gets drunk, noah gets naked, ham goes in and sees noah naked, response of Japheth and Shem is to refuse to see Noah naked and to cover Noah

this is nothing to do with pharisee hidden knowledge lol

well that's where this heresy coem from

no it does not

torah can't possibly mean exactly what it says lol

read Leviticus

it says what a mans nakedness is

yea their nakedness

thats Torah to Torah

no talmud or pharisee crap needed

you can uncover a mans nakedness by SLEEPING with his WIFE

its RIGHT in Torah dude

it's shameful to see your relatives naked, remember in the garden when their eyes are opened they are ashamed because they realzie they're naked and make aprons of figs, and then God prperly covers their nakedness

unless of course you're partial to the serpent seed heresy

no i dont believe in the serpent seed theory

well that's a relief at least

because that one is realyl fucking stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4NuWqslJDs dont believe blacks are the chosen people? watch, but in reality you know we are but again, white fragility and denial is prevalent

oh shut up jaza

lol does he think that we think the jews are white? lol we know they're semites lol

@Valiance you need to get over your ego, God is not happy with you taking pride in the color of your flesh.

The expression "going Ham" gets a whole new meaning......

lol he is just doing NOI drive-bys lol

hahaha one of the comments on that vid

https://www.stceciliachurch.org/documents/2014/11/Bergsma_and_Hahn_article_on_sin_of_Ham.pdf

Besides the use of the phrase "to see nakedness" (nmnl nw), there are
other erotically charged lexemes in Gen 9:20-27 that suggest a situation of sexual transgression. Wine (p'), for example, is intimately connected with sexuality
in both biblical and ancient Near Eastern literature.s8 Significantly, the only
other reference to drunkenness in Genesis also occurs in the context of parentchild incest: Gen 19:30-38, the account of Lot's intercourse with his daughters
as the origin of Moab and Ammon

6 The similarities between the two pericopes
are numerous: in the aftermath of a calamitous divine judgment, instigated by
the wickedness of men-particularly sexual wickedness (cf. Gen 6:4; 19:5),
which destroys the earth or a large part of it-an aged patriarch gets drunk,
facilitating intercourse between parent and child, giving rise to one or more of
the traditional enemies of Israel (Canaan, Moab, and Ammon)

yea gotta have a heretic's book to say that the torah doesn't mean what it says

what???

haha

the whole narrative then is thrown out of whack and makes no sense

all it is, is an article explaining ppl trying to understand what exactly ham did

there is few diff theories on it

it's easy to udnerstand exactly what he did it says it pretty bluntly what happened

it seems it was more then just voyeurism

you don't need any theories or occult knowledge to know what happens, it tells you exactly what happens

and it was written in near east hebrew

no one said anything about occult knowledge

its trying to understand it with in the context of near east culture and hebrew language

at this point you arent convincing me, you're trying to convince yourself

lol the theories are the occult knowledge, all this "Secret" meanings, hidden knowledge because they can't udnerstand what the Torah very bluntly says by itself