Message from @Aerione

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2016-09-06 16:26:59 UTC  

So they cannot get wrecked by physical shaking

2016-09-06 16:27:05 UTC  

@Aerione knows his shit.

2016-09-06 16:27:07 UTC  

HDDs will, however

2016-09-06 16:27:11 UTC  

Still

2016-09-06 16:27:21 UTC  

please SSDs can fail but the warning signs are so obvious

2016-09-06 16:27:23 UTC  

Going by the TLC/MLC standards set by the manufacturers

2016-09-06 16:27:27 UTC  

that in a few decades or so

2016-09-06 16:27:34 UTC  

"so obvious"

2016-09-06 16:27:35 UTC  

The cells should last double the duration of an HDD, at worst?

2016-09-06 16:27:35 UTC  

you'll have it not work anymore and move your data out

2016-09-06 16:27:41 UTC  

"OH OOPS YOUR FILE IS CORRUPT : ^)"

2016-09-06 16:28:02 UTC  

if you see a help ! my ssd is broken thread on /g then it's me..

2016-09-06 16:28:05 UTC  

"OH WHAT IS THAT? OH MY FILE SYSTEM JUST GOT CORRUPTED"

2016-09-06 16:28:07 UTC  

Windows 8 and up warn you when you SSD starts to fail

2016-09-06 16:28:22 UTC  

And that's roughly 2 thousand or so cycles before it does

2016-09-06 16:28:42 UTC  

can't like disk drives quarantine the damaged sectors and still be usable except for the damaged part ? why do they have to fuck up all at once ?

2016-09-06 16:28:47 UTC  

So far, I haven't actually seen that warning screencap show up anywhere, so I assume we'll have to wait a bit longer

2016-09-06 16:28:59 UTC  

windows normally warns you when your hdd is about to fail too

2016-09-06 16:29:05 UTC  

doesn't work errytiem

2016-09-06 16:29:08 UTC  

Yeah

2016-09-06 16:29:12 UTC  

Cause HDDs can break physically

2016-09-06 16:29:18 UTC  

You cannot account for that

2016-09-06 16:29:25 UTC  

If the spinner fails, it's gone

2016-09-06 16:29:28 UTC  

If the platter fails, it's gone

2016-09-06 16:29:30 UTC  

The creator of the Linux kernel blogged this week that the SSD in his workstation simply stopped working, interrupting his work on the Linux 3.12 kernel.

"The timing absolutely sucks, but it looks like the SSD in my main workstation just died on me," Torvalds wrote. "I had pushed out most of my pulls today, so realistically I didn't lose a lot of work."

2016-09-06 16:29:32 UTC  

If the electricity fails, it's gone

2016-09-06 16:29:34 UTC  

ssds can break physically too

2016-09-06 16:29:43 UTC  

If you open it up and wreck it that way, yes

2016-09-06 16:29:50 UTC  

"oops that solder point just came loose"

2016-09-06 16:29:59 UTC  

While there are no moving parts in an SSD, the semiconductor components can fail. For example, a NAND die, the SSD controller, capacitors, or other passive components can -- and do -- slowly wear out or fail entirely.

2016-09-06 16:30:12 UTC  

"If the electricity fails, it's gone"
No, its not. I unplugged my pc many times before.

2016-09-06 16:30:15 UTC  

"oops because of chinkshit engineering this solder point being loose just caused the whole ssd to wipe itself"

2016-09-06 16:30:31 UTC  

@trackky Referring to when it's interrupted hastily during an operation

2016-09-06 16:30:35 UTC  

"oops the ssd just shorted out between a data pin and a power pin"

2016-09-06 16:30:37 UTC  

It might corrupt an entire sector

2016-09-06 16:31:07 UTC  

SSDs require a capacitor and power supplies, which are vulnerable to malfunctions — especially in the case of a power surge or a power failure. In fact, in the case of a power failure, SSDs have been known to corrupt existing data too, even if the drive itself hasn’t failed completely.

2016-09-06 16:31:11 UTC  

Those sounds like issues you'd find out about right away, though

2016-09-06 16:31:20 UTC  

Just like with anything else

2016-09-06 16:31:23 UTC  

so do hard drives @Jignx

2016-09-06 16:31:29 UTC  

@Jignx that's the most common failure in the good SSDs you buy here, yes, but with chink ssds you never know if the soldering's shitty or something

2016-09-06 16:31:32 UTC  

We're talking about the possibility of it dying after a year of data storage