Message from @Goz3rr
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i mean sure if you hook up 20v to old nokia 5v 200mah charger... you are gonna see dead phone or lot of heat and angry phone
also is there yet even devices what give out 20v
few years ago afaik there was none really
heres a quick charge controller that can do 20v
Figure 17. NCP4371 State Diagram shows the request part
```Batteries Must Be Specifically Designed to Withstand Fast Charging
A battery is a sensitive electrochemical device. Many factors can damage the battery: temperature, sudden discharging/charging, too many charging cycles, etc. The battery is designed to absorb a specific amount of energy in a specific amount of time, and pushing more energy into it than it can handle damages the battery and shortens its lifespan. In the case of the most commonly used lithium-ion (Li-Ion) batteries, doing this causes lithium plating to form on the anode, which creates dendrites and shortens the battery life.```
there's never going more than 4.2v into a battery
if there was they'd run the risk of exploding
so the current has to vary then
the only reason for the higher voltage is less loss in the cable
in order for more power to go in to the battery you have to increase atleast one of voltage and current. you keep saying the voltage is constant so the current has to change for the charger to put out all these different watt ratings
it looks like varying current is how its done
> Fast charging at high voltage?
section explains that it does step down the voltage to increase the current
you can't increase voltage, it's not safe
```The diagram above shows how MediaTek’s PumpExpress 3.0 and 4.0 manage to reach up to 5A of charging current. If a 5A cable is connected, its technology bypasses the conventional switching charger to enable a higher current. In this case, the circuit negotiates the required voltage over the data lines, raising and lowering the Vbus charging voltage for maximum efficiency.```
i could fucking write a report on this
all of these sources show that phones that support quick charging have batteries that support higher currents aswell
yes, that's the power going into the phone, and it slightly increases charging current for the battery
it increases it quite a lot
in that one case up to 5A
that's what's going into the phone
pre losses
- what the phone is actually drawing
in order for quick charge to charge a battery faster more power has to enter the battery. power can only exist as voltage and current. we've established that batteries are charged at a very specific voltage and that the current the battery sees varies with respect to the battery voltage
batteries are not charged at a specific voltage
it depends how discharged they are
the more discharged a battery is, the more current it wants to draw and it's limited by lowering the voltage
as it gets charged the voltage climbs to ~4.2V and current drops
yessss
it's still wrong of linus to say you're charging at 14.5V
you're not
its technically correct if you only consider the power going into the *phone* since thats how the quick charge standard works
let me look at the links you posted
the first one has nothing to do with charging
that's a datasheet for a quickcharge controller