also i was going to get it make from a local leatherworker

carrying shit to my workplace

but something I could use in general

The fuck are you carrying on your back that weighs 50kg

as I said before my current max load is around 10-13kg

but I want something future proof

just in case

The only thing that is really gonna hold that kind of weight without fucking up your back or falling apart is a proper military rucksack

Not chink

The kind you pay up for

10-13kg anything can do that

https://www.maxpedition.com/collections/travel/products/ironstorm-adventure-travel-bag-62l-closeout-final-sale?lshst=collection

this

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Weak frame if any

If you're going to put anything heavy in there it's going to be worn via the shoulder sling

And don't do that it's shitty

Look when you go hiking you want to minimize weight

But have a pack with high volume to store your shit

Good tents and sleeping bags occupy the same space but with less weight

Bags are designed with this in mind

Weight-bearing packs either have really tough internal frames or external frames

I see, so I am looking for a pack with a strong frame first and foremost

If you don't actually need to carry 50kg then don't plan on it

If you want a super strong pack look into high grade western rucksacks

Or old alice packs on ebay

You can get giant and reliable us army rucks for like $70 on ebay

Not assault packs - ones like this https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F303131785103

Or similar designs

I'm US Army, I know what we have. Other countries have these or their own variants.

thanks for the advice man

But like honestly

If you walk around with that huge thing without needing to

You're gonna look like a tool

So just get a normal backpack if all you need to carry is 15kg

hmm, you make a good point, I was thinking of getting two then

one for 50 kg and one for 20kg

I have my ruck, my regular backpack, and a chink hiking pack on the way

Ruck easily usable for hiking but expensive if I lose or break it

for love of god what ever you do dont get old alice bags

they are torture devices straight from hell