yup, it's always straight 30 miles up

Brb

dude it's straight 300 miles up..

and don't give me a vid like the Sunrays ones... don't like another visual argument...

https://i.imgur.com/OSbXnt8.gif these are some snapshots of it. I can’t post any pictures but look up “lensdistortion” you have barreldistortion and pincushion distortion. And the way to detect this is watching the horizon go up and down in the frame. If the horizon changes shape its a fisheyelens. It the horizon stay the same both above and below the center of frame its not distorted. And here the full raw unedited video. You can see the horizon looks flat from the ground and starts to curve ever so slightly as it goes up https://youtu.be/2RATP53l9MA

Mind you this is from a flat earther.

see, most seem flat too me

Yeah you’re not expecting to see much curve to begin with the earth is gigantic

You really have to look or in this case compare it to a straight line

and in the last vid the Earth was concaved with the wobble..

still a distorted lens

When it’s wobbling really hard that’s just the camera not being able to process the image

Look when its more stable but still wobbling up and down

Then you don’t see any change

what about the pictures of beyondhorizons.eu or the cities photographed while it supposed to be meters under the horizon

Math says its not a globe

Unless you assume it is and add your mirage math

Yeah that’s a never ending discussion you have all kinds of refraction you have looming which brings object up over the horizon and you have sinking as well making object dissapear bottom up

I don’t like those kinds of topics

Too many variables

and look into daytime moon crescents

Moonlight isn't the sun's reflection

very interesting

Oh there’s actually a really fun and simple test you can do with the daytime moon

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Sometimes it works out and sometimes its off a bit

If you hold a ball up to the moon as close to it as you can. You will see that the terminatorline (light to shadow) always matches that on the moon.

@zep tepi you cant always do that

On a clear day when both the sun and moon are out

Yes but...

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I will try if there is a waning or waxing daytime crescent and the sun is opposite of the moon if my ball has half a shadow on it...

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I can already give you an answer..

I've got a good observation from morning time when the sun was below the horizon (was just getting light) to the east rising....the moon was to the west about 45 degrees above horizon. I documented the moon light was left upper when it should of been left lower

Just try it

I will

https://youtu.be/Xr2kX-q9vU8

You want to hold the ball in a straight line between your eyes and the moon as close as possible. If you know what i mean @United Netherlands

You can’t obviously block the moon with the ball but hold it as close as possible

What if the sun and the moon are opposite of each other in the sky? daytime, what phase does the moon have?