Message from @Vitmar

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2019-09-20 19:12:39 UTC  

And I am not a biologist

2019-09-20 19:12:44 UTC  

Neither a medic

2019-09-20 19:12:51 UTC  

But speaking what I know about it

2019-09-20 19:13:02 UTC  

Your immune system have cells called T helper cells

2019-09-20 19:13:09 UTC  

i dont need booster shots for measles, mumps or chicken pox lol i got it naturally and do not need booster shots like you do if you get the vaccine lol

2019-09-20 19:13:41 UTC  

To get immunity from a disease you need to have it first

2019-09-20 19:13:47 UTC  

Could you please provide scientific justification on how a vaccine would prevent viruses from mutating?

2019-09-20 19:13:55 UTC  

It does not

2019-09-20 19:13:57 UTC  

but why not thru the membrane

2019-09-20 19:14:04 UTC  

it seems to be better if you do

2019-09-20 19:14:06 UTC  

hmmmm

2019-09-20 19:14:20 UTC  

You need a new vaccine for each new strain of virus

2019-09-20 19:14:28 UTC  

Let me continue speaking

2019-09-20 19:14:40 UTC  

bypassing the membrane straight to the veins does not let your body do the work needed

2019-09-20 19:14:54 UTC  

Could you please provide scientific justification as to how a vaccination can target a virus in an infected individual who does not have the exact viral configuration or strain the vaccine was developed for?

2019-09-20 19:15:10 UTC  

All promoters of vaccination fail to realize that the respiratory tract of humans (actually all mammals) contains antibodies which initiates natural immune responses within the respiratory tract mucosa. Bypassing this mucosal aspect of the immune system by directly injecting viruses into the bloodstream leads to a corruption in the immune system itself. As a result, the pathogenic viruses or bacteria cannot be eliminated by the immune system and remain in the body, where they will further grow and/or mutate as the individual is exposed to ever more antigens and toxins in the environment which continue to assault the immune system.

2019-09-20 19:15:11 UTC  

Then your immune system after getting "samples" of the virus new cells are born with such setup

2019-09-20 19:15:21 UTC  

Such as memory cells

2019-09-20 19:15:32 UTC  

Those work like a computer antivirus

2019-09-20 19:15:47 UTC  

Your antivirus scans for hashes of malwares

2019-09-20 19:16:09 UTC  

If it detects one which matches with the one on his database you have detected one virus

2019-09-20 19:16:13 UTC  

so you need your respiratory tract to build those immunities properly

2019-09-20 19:16:15 UTC  

The same is with memory cells

2019-09-20 19:16:19 UTC  

What?

2019-09-20 19:16:24 UTC  

read above

2019-09-20 19:16:30 UTC  

All promoters of vaccination fail to realize that the respiratory tract of humans (actually all mammals) contains antibodies which initiates natural immune responses within the respiratory tract mucosa. Bypassing this mucosal aspect of the immune system by directly injecting viruses into the bloodstream leads to a corruption in the immune system itself. As a result, the pathogenic viruses or bacteria cannot be eliminated by the immune system and remain in the body, where they will further grow and/or mutate as the individual is exposed to ever more antigens and toxins in the environment which continue to assault the immune system.

2019-09-20 19:16:36 UTC  

there ya go

2019-09-20 19:16:50 UTC  

Despite the injection of any type of vaccine, viruses continue circulating through the body, mutating and transforming into other organisms. The ability of a vaccine manufacturer to target the exact viral strain without knowing its mutagenic properties is equivalent to shooting a gun at a fixed target that has already been moved from its location. You would be shooting at what was, not what is!

2019-09-20 19:16:56 UTC  

This doesn't makes much sense

2019-09-20 19:17:13 UTC  

Flu viruses, may mutate, change or adapt several times over a period of one flu season, making the seasonal influenza vaccine 100% redundant and ineffective every single flu season. Ironically, the natural immune defenses of the human body can target these changes but the vaccines cannot.

2019-09-20 19:17:18 UTC  

Irst because antibodies are made exclusivelly to a certain type of virus/bacteria

2019-09-20 19:17:42 UTC  

I have never encountered one pro-vaccine advocate, whether medically or scientifically qualified, who could answer even 1 let alone all 9 of these questions. One or all of the following will happen when debating any of the above questions:

2019-09-20 19:18:16 UTC  

- They will concede defeat and admit they are stumped
- They will attempt to discredit unrelated issues that do not pertain to the question.
- They will formulate their response and rebuttal based on historical arguments and scientific studies which have been disproved over and over again.
Not one pro-vaccine advocate will ever directly address these questions in an open mainstream venue.

2019-09-20 19:18:22 UTC  

can you please let me speak before bombing the chat with a LOT of copy-pasted messages and claims

2019-09-20 19:18:47 UTC  

Thank you

2019-09-20 19:18:50 UTC  

yo

2019-09-20 19:18:51 UTC  

So as I was speaking

2019-09-20 19:19:11 UTC  

Your respiratory system isn't the only place where your immune system is active

2019-09-20 19:19:28 UTC  

Or else you would die from a small cut

2019-09-20 19:19:36 UTC  

no but it is how you build a life long immunity