Message from @rivenator12113
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Stfu
Which is GRAVITY
You're assuming gravity already exists @the21cat
Youre putting texts into our devices
We are assuming that id we found it was a sphere and saying that the force could not be gravity
>Now if we decided no, gravity doesn't explain things, it's wrong. We still need something that acts on the things "under" the globe since we have observed that there are things there.
Red herring. Don't switch the subject to earth core. Gravity is still needed for globe earth to work. I've explained this a million times yet you GE are so stubborn.
Here's the logic:
Initial state:
```Globe exists because we can observe the position of the sun in the sky and the shadows it projects on the ground
Gravity exists because we can observe things falling to earth.```
Second state:
```Globe exists because we can observe the position of the sun in the sky and the shadows it projects on the ground
"not gravity" exists because we can observe things falling to earth.```
Okay fine. We have an alien device that acts as artificial gravity pulling mass to it
You guy committed so many logical fallacies and red herrings.
did the second statement have any effects on the first?
No youre being unreasonable and avoiding your own fallacies
Assuming the earth is already spherical. What holds water together? GRAVITY, you need gravity in order for the whole model to work. Is that too hard to understand?
What holds the water together? something
Not gravity for a definite fact
That something is gravity
Globe earthers refer to gravity to why water sticks to a globe.
No its a force
there are no assumptions. read it again:
Initial state:
```Globe exists because we can observe the position of the sun in the sky and the shadows it projects on the ground
Gravity exists because we can observe things falling to earth.```
Second state:
```Globe exists because we can observe the position of the sun in the sky and the shadows it projects on the ground
"not gravity" exists because we can observe things falling to earth.```
The first statement has nothing to do with water
here, i'll change it so that it's easier for you to understand.
Sure because thats the best accepted theory. But that theory could be thrown out any day
You're saying spherical earth already exists therefore gravity exists. It is a logical fallacy. You jumped to the wrong conclusion
Therefor something holding it to the sphere exists
Initial state:
```1st statement (has nothing to do with water): Globe exists because we can observe the position of the sun in the sky and the shadows it projects on the ground
2nd statement (this one is about water): Gravity exists because we can observe water falling to earth.```
Second state:
```1st statement (has nothing to do with water): Globe exists because we can observe the position of the sun in the sky and the shadows it projects on the ground
2nd statement (this one is about water): "not gravity" exists because we can observe water falling to earth.```
Then you're assuming gravity or some other force already exists.
where's the assumption?????
That gravity exists because a spherical earth exists.
did you even read what I just posted 3 times?
rivenator12113#1610 LANGUAGE!!!
You're repeating the same phrases I already debunked
Yes we are because thats how physics works
Find the word water or gravity in this sentence:
Globe exists because we can observe the position of the sun in the sky and the shadows it projects on the ground
The whole argument was about that you said gravity is not needed for a globe earth to exists. Stop doing so many red herring and think your gonna get away with your logical fallacies
Find the words sky, sun or shadow in this sentence:
"not gravity" exists because we can observe water falling to earth.
I gtg @Akhanyatin can cover for me in this debate pls
cya @the21cat !
You said we didn't need gravity for a globe earth to exist. Stop straw manning so muhc lol
Stop strawmanning yourself.
I said, we don't need JUST gravity to prove the earth is a globe. And any theory that replaces gravity will take into consideration that the earth is a globe, since the earth being a globe can be proven through other means
Thank you, you need gravity or some other force that can make water stick to a sphere so a globe earth can work. I rest my case
wtf lol this was never in question....
disproving gravity doesn't make water magically fly into space
Akhanyatin is sharp, damn