the sky doesn't stay the same

that's a lie

but it looks the same

if you don't know what you are looking for

it's more a matter of time rathern than only distance

Constellations will slowly change over time

globe model has us spinning in 7 directions yet the stars spin in perfect concentric circles every night and never change

Why is it all the consideree smart people in history believe it's round, i havent rly seen a famous scientist say itta flat

of course, the earth spins more than the skies

also, just because i was ignorant of that one detail doesn't negate my point @Teddy

you just want to flee from the argument because you can't debate it

But the stars don’t stay the same.... the constellations change with the seasons

my point was, there was stuff there that you can observe

you didn't negate that

we should all observe a pulsar

you literaly argued in favor of that, by saying there is a thing there

Your argument was that they left stuff on the moon, the only observable stuff that they left was the reflector. You didn't even know that there was a reflector. Look into your arguments before you talk.

try again

Y'all still dont have a valid replacement for gravity btw

Archimedes Principle @Ronin

yeah, you literaly are agreeing with me then

there is stuff on the moon

the moon is real

nope

space is real

tbh if space didn't exist it might make me less nihilistic because space is terrifying man

What is happening here?

what's your point @Teddy

I would like to live in the world the flat earthers picture

@TheVanishGuy No, is there any tests proving that there was nothing reflecting the moon before it? Are people not skeptical?

like one gamma ray burst near earth and bam we incinirated

what do you mean

gravity is an abstraction of 'rate of fall'. if you're talking about gravitational force, do you mean Einsteinian or Newtonian?

are you saying that reflector was there before we put it in

somebody have been watching kurtgezat @CTRLRetro

@Teddy

Right first off what is everyone beliefs here? Im getting confused

Globe

yes i watch loads of him but i also know bits and bobs anyway

you can reflect w/o a reflector Vanishguy