you got more patience than me @carlito I dont waste my time.

Plants don't have a nervous system

I don't think the problem is with vegans, it's with people who try to shove ideas down your throat, kinda like FE people do when they go in the streets yelling the earth is flat (there's a bunch of videos of FE jusf preaching FE lol)

Meaning that they can't feel pain

But sometimes you need meat to achieve a healthy diet

Ok plants don't have a nervous system

I dont care what other people eat.

well, if animals were slaughtered properly in the correct fashion then they wouldn't feel much pain either

Yep basically

i wasn't referring to 'pain', i was referring to killing

But there's also the factor of how they were raised

Ok but the meat industry is also very polluting

yeah, I knew i guy who used to go to people farms to slaughter their animals, and he would shoot the cow and it was dead Before it hit the ground.

i think people should eat less meat. only eat meat if you are engaging in the sort of physical activity that it would require to naturally catch meat

Cows are a huge source of greenhouse gases

doesn't shooting it somehow infect the blood

To be able to meet demands, chickens are stuffed into tiny coups with no breathing or living space

and if you couldnt kill the animal, then dont eat it.

i could kill a chicken, i could kill fish, i could probably kill

there are professional cyclists that eat nothing BUT meat ,,

@Czepa you're not wrong, though it should be fine to eat meat occasionally nonetheless.

grass fed meat

But i do agree, less meat is good

raw i think

when it starts coming into the size and kind of animal that has intelligence then i dont know how i feel about it, but if i was hungry i would kill anything and eat it

well, if we dont kill the cows, then fine. - Let them all die, cos farmers cant afford to have 1000 beef cattle just for pets. -

Yep

this is not natural https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/29/revealed-industrial-scale-beef-farming-comes-to-the-uk

another argument is,, why on God's earth were animals created that taste so darn delicious when killed, cooked and eaten?

The funny thing is some vegans think that it's shameful that we domesticated cows in the first place

let the cows go extinct then (cos vegans dont want us milking them too!) -

it's like a sick twist ,, don't kill animals and eat them, but i'll make them tasty as possible

Cows technically can't survive in the wild

I'll give them 3 days before they get killed

these practices are not the same as a 'cattle farm'

@Czepa Some areas of modern farming is terrible. 100% true.

my sister is a vegan, but when there's a steak sizzling nearby, she becomes seriously aroused and says things like, 'i wish i could eat that'

meat is essential for you. A B6 B12 D E K2

yet, she'll spout off about how wrong it is

Look, I have chickens right? I get free eggs every day - they have a massive area to live in, 20meters x 20meters - I have chickens die of OLD AGE! They have great lives.

plants dont have these essential vitamin complexes