Message from @Σ5

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2019-09-10 08:04:15 UTC  

your expecting a scientific paper to assess a scientific paper
eventually you will get infinite papers

2019-09-10 08:05:03 UTC  
2019-09-10 08:05:15 UTC  

@Σ5 You agree that if someone is gonna come with a label on your paper that you made, you would expect some evidence behind it with direct quotes or procedures that you took? Nope, not one evidence of it. All they did it was call it those terms with no further backing.

2019-09-10 08:06:48 UTC  

it was most likely a vote not a single person decision

2019-09-10 08:07:28 UTC  

Appeal to authority is very hypocritical. Who cares what a person labels it as, what cares is the evidence as to why they label it as it.

2019-09-10 08:07:49 UTC  

But you seem to care about the labels more than the evidence which they never presented.

2019-09-10 08:07:55 UTC  

never endorced apeal to authority

2019-09-10 08:08:38 UTC  

'' A bunch of people said those terms therefore those terms are correct '' is pretty much appeal to authority.

2019-09-10 08:08:54 UTC  

they need a way to systamaticly clasify the papers
they need to lable it to be more efficient

2019-09-10 08:09:06 UTC  

Better to be immune to a series of deadly illnesses than having some adjuvants in your body

2019-09-10 08:09:17 UTC  

thats apeal to popularity

2019-09-10 08:09:44 UTC  

wich is ok if you know how the people do the process

2019-09-10 08:09:46 UTC  

I thought you were talking about the doctors that took the vote which would be appeal to authority.

2019-09-10 08:09:54 UTC  

you cant be absolutly sure but sure enugh

2019-09-10 08:10:03 UTC  

i am

2019-09-10 08:10:40 UTC  

All I'm asking is for you to present evidence behind to those terms and not just take it up because some authority said it so. Critical thinking is very much needed today for this kind of stuff.

2019-09-10 08:10:54 UTC  

im just saying whats possible

2019-09-10 08:12:38 UTC  

That's fair, don't you think they should present the evidence when labeling the paper those terms? Wouldn't it be unjust for the anti-vaxxer doctor to get his license revoked and paper falsified with no further evidence?

2019-09-10 08:12:46 UTC  

they should

2019-09-10 08:13:14 UTC  

at least an attached explanation
a rundown at least

2019-09-10 08:13:22 UTC  

they might

2019-09-10 08:13:30 UTC  

but i need to see the website

2019-09-10 08:13:51 UTC  
2019-09-10 08:14:03 UTC  

>Myth #1: Vaccines cause autism.
The widespread fear that vaccines increase risk of autism originated with a 1997 study published by Andrew Wakefield, a British surgeon. The article was published in The Lancet, a prestigious medical journal, suggesting that the measles, mumps, rubella (MMR) vaccine was increasing autism in British children.

The paper has since been completely discredited due to serious procedural errors, undisclosed financial conflicts of interest, and ethical violations. Andrew Wakefield lost his medical license and the paper was retracted from The Lancet.

2019-09-10 08:15:07 UTC  

thats a basic site that i see no reason to adress it in full

2019-09-10 08:15:31 UTC  

i was thinking like a formal site where they adress the papers
maybe the site itself where teh papers are posted

2019-09-10 08:15:47 UTC  

If you read further they say that the thing has taken seriously and addressed, and they did other studies

2019-09-10 08:15:59 UTC  

dont expect it to go into depth on that site

2019-09-10 08:16:34 UTC  

Appeal to authority again, they never mentioned what the further studies or papers that they conducted were. No specifications. Look at it from a neutral POV @ksucc 🌙

2019-09-10 08:16:46 UTC  

If you ask the doctor who did the study they will probably send all the things but we don’t know who is

2019-09-10 08:18:43 UTC  

@ksucc 🌙 You basically agree to those terms because someone said so and not the evidence presented?

2019-09-10 08:19:19 UTC  

Well There is

2019-09-10 08:19:21 UTC  

Pretty sure not every doctor is aware of every study that has taken place.

2019-09-10 08:19:25 UTC  

Where is it?

2019-09-10 08:19:29 UTC  

There is an article

2019-09-10 08:19:39 UTC  

Listed on that page

2019-09-10 08:20:29 UTC  

That article is for a whole other subject, it doesn't refute the anti-vaxxer main paper.

2019-09-10 08:21:00 UTC  

https://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(13)00144-3/pdf?ext=.pdf
It proves that vaccines don’t cause autism

2019-09-10 08:26:26 UTC  

I mean, in the scientific community, if you can prove that a theory is flawed, this can justify why they said there are procedural errors in the first theory, also ethical violations

2019-09-10 08:26:40 UTC  

I just looked over the paper, ''The initial concerns that vaccines may cause autism were related to the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine1 and
thimerosal-containing vaccines.2 In 2004, a comprehensive review by the Institute of Medicine concluded that the
evidence favors rejection of possible causal associations between each of these vaccine types and autism.3''