there doesn't need to be a creator

there can just be no beginning

big brain

You're trying to dodge my question with strawmen

if there is no beginning then how is there a now

right now I believe the theory of big bangs and big crunches

the most impossible coincedences have to happen somewhere in the universe

where the universe expands and speeds up and eventually slows down, and reverses

I never said there was a big bang, i never said there was no beginning

and crashes together

and bangs again

over and over

I simply said there is no proof of a creator

And you're evading that

@TheObliterator what created the first universe?

wdym

What created the first creator?

it just never started

hi

you said there were many universe because of the big crunch. kinda like 5d

If you get to believe in a creator that always existed then it's perfectly valid for us to believe the universe also always existed

@Emblyn hoe u flat

ye

Of course my question isn't based in any such claims

It's simply a statement of non belief

hi

the fact that the earth is flat is proof of god.

water never curves bro

Either you believe that

So lucas, prove there is a creator to me with evidence, not by disproving theories or by making assertions

Something came out of nothing

uh

The earth being flat doesn't imply anything

only on the ice wall

water curves to the shape of its container

that’s part of its property as a fluid

trying to prove god to an atheist is like trying to describe a colour to a blind person

is a statement of "the earth is flat therefore there is a god" followed with "water never curves bro"

you’re being rude

Trying to prove god through strawmen to an atheist*

@Teddy except we're rationally and intellectually deciding there's no god.