The tiny ice crystals in the air in those pictures do strange things to the sunlight

idk

Uhh...

some of them look liek theyre from a movie

lol

If a firmament were the cause of those caustics, we'd see them *all the time*, or at least every day around the same times.

is the belief that

the sun is outside the firmament ?

im asking for clrification

I'm not sure, actually. I've heard both.

the truth is, we are not yet in agreement

@rivenator12113 is it possible that these effect are there because of moisture in the air or effects du camera's lens being made of glass?

https://youtu.be/PpxoGRCnyhc

well if it was outside

Is there a channel I can ask questions in?

you would always see a ranbow

reguardless of mist

if it was inside well, it would make more sense

I think those pics were of sundogs, which are visible with the naked eye.

hello

Funny how those effects are mostly visible when there are ice particles in the air 🤔

but only under certain atmospheric conditions.

there would also be like a magnifying glass effect

^^

if it was outside

idk ive never seen these effects going outside

there are those types of effects .. there are times the sun looks huge

personally

it looks cool

If you live somewhere where it doesn’t get very cold, you might not ever see them

Iirc

wouldn't it also depend on what material the firmanent was made out of

i live in NA

I live in Canada, so I usually see sundogs every winter.

like most north part you can get

When there are ice crystals in the air

of NA

yup, usually exceptionally cold days.

yes ice crystals lighting up

Also note how there’s snow in all of those pics

Or at the very least it’s visibly cold