unless both lives are at extreme risk

Sure they shouldn't. Should people smoke cigarettes? no. But should it be legal? Yes. @Abe Lover

They aren't harming anyone else but themselves

You can say second hand smoking but you have a choice to not hangout with them

I don't agree with abortion unless both lives are at high risk

or rape

Also it's stupid that the male gets no choice to decide

A fetus is NOT considered human. End of story.

But most rape victims don't even abort

that is dystopian if you don't allow rape

Since they feel guilty

brain fart

@Abe Lover that line is take out of context easily dude

well the rapist is gonna be punished already so why kill the baby too?

it's about the mother not the baby

@The_chickenmaster meant that the male who got the girl pregnant doesn't have a choice

there is adoption

the mother has just been raped and they have no intention of having a baby

it's very physically excruciating

what if the mother wants the rapists baby

they never had a say in this

@TheObliterator what about consensual?

@Abe Lover no i mean the sentice "rape i allow"

@The_chickenmaster lol yeah

early-term abortions should be allowed

late-term shouldn't

eh pain isn't worth more than life

@TheObliterator so if the male wants to keep the baby should he get a say?

Because he doesn't

early term I can deal with to be completely honest

It still bothers me

They can abort without his consent

some kind of say, but not more than the mother's

@TheObliterator Why not? SCOTUS stated that an abortion can be done late term.

but like late term is just like

that's not good

Male should get a say

late term the baby has nerves and he can feel pain

They're the one who got them pregnant

at that point it is murder

oh but you'd be called sexist even though it takes two to make a baby