Message from @MrBATMAN
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Two brits. That’s 34 additional IQ points in the group
@MrBATMAN i heard you say how do we have a moral foundation without being inspired by the great creator and the great book. well then what about the catholic church who have commited the worst crimes in europe
@MrBATMAN the crusades, witch trials, the holocaust, religious imperialism, the african slave trade, and of course covering up almost a hundred thousand cases of sexual harrassment agaisnt children.
and absolving sins for money
would you want to go into a different voice chat that way we dont interupt them
go into the center of ideology chat
be there in a minute
I'm so fucked
@MrBATMAN do you believe that before Moses came down from the mountain with the Ten Commandments, the Jewish people believe murder was ok?
@MrBATMAN the most ridiculous person ive ever talked to
says well since you cant prove the origin of something you might as well conclude its a higher being that has made it
@MrBATMAN can i ask one question please
Big respect to emile for taking part in this in a second language.
Yeah for sure
^ relevent to the convo earlier
Looking for opinions or advice on a situation I'm in. My parents abused me growing up . "Spankings" with boards, hands, cords, sticks and belts. I told them to stop when I was I high school.im 31 now. Since then we have just ignored that ever happened but 2 years ago i told them how much that hurt me and affected me growing up and the don't deny it happened but then deny they did anything wrong. I avoid contact with them at the moment. Am I over reacting? My twin and older brother didn't stand up with me when i adreesed our parents about the abuse and they continued have a good relatioship with eachother. Brothers got abused but not as much. I feel pretty alone.
Norbert, firstly I want to express my deep sympathy for your story, and acknowledge the amount of trauma you experienced in your formative years. Firstly, I would like to remind you that there still is a wound present. To separate from your abusers is an act of choosing yourself, and your self worth. Your self worth is always there, and to build a foundation of esteem, making decisions like that I applaud you immensely to remove yourself from that situation. As for your journey going forward, I strongly recommend a path of forgiveness for yourself, as well as forgiving your past, to release the emotion cord it has still gripped you with. You are valued, safe, and appreciated here for your humanness. Your path to meaning comes from your trauma. Remember that your worth has always been there, as battered as it is. Stay present with yourself, and continue to choose the internal acts of love, and give it unconditionally to yourself. Know that to give unconditional love to yourself changes your situation. Blessings Norbert.
@TheRestfulSpire thank you.
Absolutely, Norbert. Continue on your path to growth, even if it is two steps forward, one step back. I believe in your growth, and I notice you, and your path.
I thought in coming clean about my feelings that they might accept responsibility and apologize and I would be free of this pain. But after they didn't and my brothers not backing me up and continuing to have a happy relationship with them I have never felt more alone.
It's feels like my brothers are siding with them.
@TheRestfulSpire thank you for responding
Is there a bad echonfor anyone else
Echo
That makes a lot of sense how it could make your feel alone, norbert. Know however, that this is a moment that I know is growing you stronger. Family trauma has a way of stripping us of our supposed worth being diminished. But I know that where you are at right now is putting you in a place closer to healing. Cutting off this cord physically has been done, now I believe your strength and blessings in this is to cut the emotional cord. Sending love your way my friend.
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@TheRestfulSpire thank you for your kind and caring words.
Odiogyn, it seems to me you are starting to blur the lines between fatalism and determinism with your interpretation.
Fatalism