Message from @T2the2ndpowr

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2020-09-21 18:36:55 UTC  

Morality emerged from utilitarian behavior.

2020-09-21 18:39:02 UTC  

But utilitarian for who? For the group or for the individual?

2020-09-21 18:39:06 UTC  

@T2the2ndpowr Not necessarily. I'm just saying that the more intense the emotion is, the more we should value it because the further the animal is from being unconscious (I'm assuming the evolution of consciousness was a continuous process)

2020-09-21 18:44:23 UTC  

There is a moral action that an Atheist can't make: Repent.

2020-09-21 18:45:00 UTC  

When the Atheis repents, he is no longer an atheist.

2020-09-21 18:45:31 UTC  

Although the assumption that chickens and fish have less intense emotions is obviously a difficult one

2020-09-21 18:45:32 UTC  

That is because repentance can only be don by accepting God.

2020-09-21 18:45:51 UTC  

I think that’s poor. The whole idea of repenting is poor

2020-09-21 18:46:07 UTC  

In your opinion, yes.

2020-09-21 18:47:51 UTC  

But I wouldn't say its "poor" because it has been studied and analyzed for 2000 years by various scholars and hermits in Orthodoxy.

2020-09-21 18:47:52 UTC  

repentance is just a useful emotion, atheism is rejecting the hypothesis of god.

2020-09-21 18:48:45 UTC  

Rejecting the hypothesis of God is non-scientifical

2020-09-21 18:49:09 UTC  

by rejecting I mean saying its not true/unlikely

2020-09-21 18:49:09 UTC  

Rejecting the Theory of God might be more scientifical.

2020-09-21 18:49:10 UTC  

I’ve always had a problem with the whole repent and get into heaven thing. Rejecting the idea of the Christian god isn’t non scientific

2020-09-21 18:49:36 UTC  

Not really.

2020-09-21 18:50:16 UTC  

I think it’s fair and could be I guess respectable to be a deist but to be a theist I think is obviously not scientific at all

2020-09-21 18:50:27 UTC  

It depends on the criteria you are prepeared to accept in order to estblish a truth

2020-09-21 18:50:46 UTC  

😂

2020-09-21 18:50:56 UTC  

That is your opinion, ofc.

2020-09-21 18:51:17 UTC  

Science isn’t opinionated

2020-09-21 18:51:23 UTC  

Actually it is

2020-09-21 18:51:29 UTC  

Not at all lol

2020-09-21 18:51:33 UTC  

Tell me how it is

2020-09-21 18:51:39 UTC  

I'm a fan of whats real so I like reality to tell me whats true

2020-09-21 18:51:44 UTC  

"Thomas Kunn" - The Nature of Scientifical Revolutions. You will understand.

2020-09-21 18:52:26 UTC  

How is science opinionated @Yussuki ₪

2020-09-21 18:52:49 UTC  

Through peer-review criteria (and that is 1 aspect)

2020-09-21 18:52:50 UTC  

It’s just a process to study evidence and determine if it’s true

2020-09-21 18:53:18 UTC  

But you understand they are using the scientific method

2020-09-21 18:53:35 UTC  

It’s not just peer review as in just looking at it and seeing if they like it

2020-09-21 18:53:36 UTC  

The conclusions are dependent on the structuring criteria and pre-determined conditions

2020-09-21 18:55:01 UTC  

Scientific Method may fail quite hard. This is why there are other methods that may eventually corroborate with the Scientific method. Truth is always set as a matter of consensus.

2020-09-21 18:55:54 UTC  

youre such a postmodernist

2020-09-21 18:56:31 UTC  

Like Zion you’re using the right language but I guess you’re missing something.

2020-09-21 18:56:46 UTC  

What’s an example of where science doesn’t work and you need other systems

2020-09-21 18:57:25 UTC  

Lol 😄 No, actually this has been established since "The Theory of Natural Philosophy" - By Roger Boscovich in the 1700s

2020-09-21 18:58:15 UTC  

Don’t just make statements explain them

2020-09-21 18:58:21 UTC  

When you choose which ice-cream to choose. When you choose wheather you stay with rent or buy.

2020-09-21 18:58:28 UTC  

In most human situations actually

2020-09-21 18:58:31 UTC  

"established" I would say made fun of since then