Using science to justify science? You mean using science to learn about the universe?

How do you know science works, as in being a reliable way to learn about the universe? I accept science, but those are issues that you can't justify rationally with science...

I'm a fucking atheist btw. I like science, but it be the truth

What can't we not justify rationally with science?

The reliability of science itself

That's one example though

There's others

Give me another.

The laws of logic

How are science and logic incompatible?

I'm not saying they are. Science uses logic. It's that Naz is correct. There are these assumptions that science works with that are faith-based. Or maybe that's not what he meant... But there is faith involved in the process/method

They aren't faith based. Logic is self evident. That's different than faith.

So, how do you define faith? I use the definition of belief in the absence of reason

@Jarlkage Productions "There are these assumptions that science works with that are faith-based" yes that is correct

> @Jarlkage Productions "There are these assumptions that science works with that are faith-based" yes that is correct
@James B ugh. You two have at it.

@m.miller This is a conversation between you and @Jarlkage Productions

is there any reason to belive in god?

I'm not trashing science. I like science, but it ain't the only way of knowing

and if not why does this belife seem so concistent throughout time?

and i dont talk about physical prove

like a white beard hair flowing in the air

I am an atheist myself, but sure, there is some evidence for God. It's that I don't find it compelling, plus I think the evidence for Atheism is far superior

whats the purpose to realy belive in god

is it only to give away responsibility

or isnt that the opposit on loving god

There's many reasons, I take it. Ask theists that question lol.

ok

lol

Some say it's an evolutionary adaptation. It gives people comfort, or whatever... Lol

I also accept that there are people who legit believe they have good (rational) reasons to believe in that stuff too

comfort as in giving up responsibility?

Maybe.

comfort as in god will know i dont have to think for my self

But I doubt that's how it is for most of these people

or make desicions

some atheist belive in the konzept of good by acting acordingly and some christians who claim to love good are as far away as one can be all i say about this

*without knowing

they just call it something else

I don't hate people for believing in God btw. I care more about circumcision and abuse at the hands of religious people... I'll politely disagree with people on issues of metaphysics

I believe in selfish interests tbh. That's my morality

I'm an honest selfish atheist