Message from @BobbyMack

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2020-09-10 11:15:52 UTC  

Haha

2020-09-10 11:16:39 UTC  

"Though Dawkins wasn’t a part of the interview process, and researchers didn’t ask about him, 48 of the 137 British scientists they spoke to mentioned Dawkins. Of those 48 that referenced him, 80 per cent said they thought that Dawkins misrepresents science and scientists in his books and public speeches, according to the study by Rice University, Texas."

2020-09-10 12:57:09 UTC  

"The common criticism was that Dawkins was too strong in his criticism of religion, and one nonreligious professor of biology referred to him as a “fundamental atheist”. "He feels compelled to take the evidence way beyond that which other scientists would regard as possible. ... I want [students] to develop [science] in their own lives. And I think it's necessary to understand what science does address directly."

Another described his work as a “crusade, basically”, and said that though he was right his work is “deliberately designed to alienate religious people”."

2020-09-10 15:29:34 UTC  
2020-09-10 15:45:47 UTC  

@SunFlower If religious people are making a specific scientific claim about the natural world which defies what we can see and test and demonstrate, he (as well as all of us) has a duty to point out that flaw in reasoning.

There's no utility in taking away prayer beads from a sick and elderly person who is deriving solace from God. There IS utility in getting people to believe in biological evolution.

2020-09-10 15:56:05 UTC  

a specific SCIENTIFIC claim? Well sure...

2020-09-10 15:56:23 UTC  

I would agree with you if someone said "Evolution is wrong because the bible says so, and that is a scientific fact"

2020-09-10 15:57:53 UTC  

but if someone who happens to be a Christian is doing research or analysis and doesnt literally lie or deceive people with fake data, it wouldnt be their reasoning thats in question itd be their personal beliefs, which is of course (anti-religious) ad hominem

2020-09-10 15:58:41 UTC  

What do you think about Ray Comfort?

2020-09-10 15:58:55 UTC  

never seen or read anything from him

2020-09-10 15:59:04 UTC  

I think I saw like, 2 minutes of a debate from him vs. dillahunty

2020-09-10 15:59:06 UTC  

He's SO entertaining lol

2020-09-10 15:59:14 UTC  

wasnt compelled by either side

2020-09-10 15:59:18 UTC  

got bored and clicked on something else

2020-09-10 15:59:19 UTC  

lol

2020-09-10 15:59:37 UTC  

Ray is so irrational and hilarious.

2020-09-10 16:00:42 UTC  

do you guys wanna hop into the open mic?

2020-09-10 16:00:57 UTC  

I'll be able to join at ~1:15

2020-09-10 16:01:11 UTC  

time zone?

2020-09-10 16:01:23 UTC  

oh right, how egocentric of me

2020-09-10 16:01:29 UTC  

of course everyone's in MY time zone

2020-09-10 16:01:31 UTC  

EDT

2020-09-10 16:01:56 UTC  

hahaha it's okay, it's easy to forget

2020-09-10 16:02:46 UTC  

but with it being "Richard dawkins" day I'd enjoy talking about this

2020-09-10 16:04:58 UTC  

everyone hates richard dawkins

2020-09-10 16:05:07 UTC  

wrong

2020-09-10 16:05:11 UTC  

jk

2020-09-10 16:05:17 UTC  

did u see that independent article tho

2020-09-10 16:05:20 UTC  

it is pretty funny honestly

2020-09-10 16:05:43 UTC  

> "Though Dawkins wasn’t a part of the interview process, and researchers didn’t ask about him, 48 of the 137 British scientists they spoke to mentioned Dawkins. Of those 48 that referenced him, 80 per cent said they thought that Dawkins misrepresents science and scientists in his books and public speeches, according to the study by Rice University, Texas."

2020-09-10 16:05:46 UTC  

this is incredibly funny imo

2020-09-10 16:05:59 UTC  

eh

2020-09-10 16:06:54 UTC  

'We interviewed 137 scientists on their favorite foods and 40 spoke unfavorably of Richard dawkins'

2020-09-10 16:07:01 UTC  

It doesn't surprise me that much. He's one of most well-known science popularizers in the world, even disregarding the God Delusion

2020-09-10 16:07:12 UTC  

He was famous before that

2020-09-10 16:08:04 UTC  

oh I'm talking to the president of Flat Earth Society today too, so that'll be fun

2020-09-10 16:08:15 UTC  

let me know if you think there's something I should ask him

2020-09-10 16:08:41 UTC  

Ask him if Australia is on the other side

2020-09-10 16:09:17 UTC  

ask him why objects fall towards the ground instead of in any other direction when dropped

2020-09-10 16:09:32 UTC  

altho im sure he has some rehearsed rebuttal to that

2020-09-10 16:09:42 UTC  

that one really stumps them