Message from @matthew widen

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2020-09-10 16:09:42 UTC  

that one really stumps them

2020-09-10 16:09:47 UTC  

'LOOK, UP IS UP, DOWN IS DOWN'

2020-09-10 16:10:02 UTC  

he thinks the earth is zooming upward at the rate of gravity due to an "Aetheric whirlpool"

2020-09-10 16:10:05 UTC  

that honestly is their explanation

2020-09-10 16:10:12 UTC  

ohhh he's one of those

2020-09-10 16:10:25 UTC  

i mean c'mon Sunflower, how can I argue with that?? AETHERIC WHIRLPOOL

2020-09-10 16:10:30 UTC  

cant argue that

2020-09-10 16:10:38 UTC  

too compelling

2020-09-10 16:25:07 UTC  

@everyone THE MIC IS HOT! https://youtu.be/nHVR5-RnLj8

2020-09-10 16:32:56 UTC  

paywall unfortunately but you can get the gist

2020-09-10 16:32:58 UTC  

😮

2020-09-10 16:33:15 UTC  

Dude hop into the vc

2020-09-10 16:36:08 UTC  

I wish I wasn’t at work so I could be in that conversation about Dawkins. But I think his best quality and what I respect the most about him is that when he’s debating in the end he’s trying to teach his opponent about something not just argue with them.

2020-09-10 16:37:48 UTC  

Hi
I'm looking forward to eavesdropping whenever I get the chance, Dawkins is treasure.

2020-09-10 16:38:48 UTC  

Richard Dawkins in most occasions has said religion should be ended

2020-09-10 16:39:27 UTC  

It very likely he was mis quoted by the uk times

2020-09-10 16:42:17 UTC  

Richard would be great if he provided a little more insight on the utility of religion

2020-09-10 16:52:55 UTC  

First time on discord.
Wondering how to enter the live audio chat?

2020-09-10 16:53:44 UTC  

You could find it to your left called live yt feed

2020-09-10 16:54:12 UTC  

Great I got it thanks

2020-09-10 16:58:33 UTC  

James of nazareth lol

2020-09-10 17:05:19 UTC  

@T2the2ndpowr he was misquoted I think, see link I left above @SunFlower

2020-09-10 17:05:28 UTC  

Reading now

2020-09-10 17:05:31 UTC  

thanks for posting that

2020-09-10 17:05:40 UTC  

👍

2020-09-10 17:06:10 UTC  

Interesting

2020-09-10 17:07:24 UTC  

This one

2020-09-10 17:07:39 UTC  

it looks like the only distinction is whether or not he said "would" vs "could/might"

2020-09-10 17:07:46 UTC  

While promoting his new book, Outgrowing God: A Beginner’s Guide, at The Times and The Sunday Times Cheltenham Literature Festival, Dawkins made the point that if religion were abolished, it might “give people a license to do really bad things.” He referenced evidence that security camera surveillance of customers in shops did appear to deter shoplifting, adding that people might feel free to do wrong in the absence of a “divine spy camera in the sky reading their every thought.”

2020-09-10 17:08:14 UTC  

not that meaningful of a distinction imo bc its obviously speculative either way

2020-09-10 17:08:48 UTC  

I think would and might are very important distinctions

2020-09-10 17:08:52 UTC  

And I believe he said that

2020-09-10 17:08:58 UTC  

I’d agree with that

2020-09-10 17:09:27 UTC  

yeah i mean fair enough

2020-09-10 17:11:31 UTC  

Either way, it seems he was utterly misrepresented by that headline.

2020-09-10 17:11:53 UTC  

well we still dont have the actual quote

2020-09-10 17:12:13 UTC  

but yeah the headline is clickbait lol

2020-09-10 17:12:21 UTC  

for sure