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@platonic chain agreed, rugged individualism is a double edged sword

Rather than removing public schooling, which I think is still important(I'm biased, that's my profession), we SHOULD be using the logan act on teachers.

teachers shouldn't be speaking partisan politics to kids

I absolutely *never* do.

I merely teach them how to evaluate sources

you won't have any teachers left if you do that. we had coaches teaching 3 subjects at my school because they couldn't fill positions

just ideologize them and inoculate them agains the liberal bullshit they'll hear in college

indoctrinating your kids is normal, if you don't do it someone else will

or teach them a trade instead of going to college

University faculties are useful idiots for socialist propaganda

BRING WORKSHOP BACK TO PUBLIC SCHOOLS

Lets say you live in cali and you're conservative... would you even bother to vote?

The university system is a paradox. They indoctrinate socialist moral standards while charging you a lifetime of indebtedness.

I am conservative and in California. Yes I am voting

And many others like me are as well

I'm a CTE teacher, workshops and stuff like that are being brought back to schools but it isn't enough.

You can fix the education system if we get rid of the requirement to mainstream all students and allow performance tracking

Special ed kids get full time special ed treatment

Kids not bright enough for college go to vocational schools(the majority should go here)

bright kids should go on college track.

If you’re a minority partisan wise in your state now is the perfect time to vote. In NY on Hudson River they had Trump boat parade. That means the red exists in these libtard monopolies

Right now the machinery is all in place but it's used poorly because we can't performance track kids so you have situations like retarded kids who speak in honks taking college track math classes

I HAVE SEEN THIS

We need to get rid of the GE requirements. They are made to support the colleges and universities and not the students with extra debt for shit they'll never use again

I am a business major yet I need to learn about theatre in the 60's?

GE requirements are okay, they are fairly light, and a university SHOULD provide a balanced education beyond a specific cert to a degree.

More than that, i think that community colleges should be recieving the brunt of our funding.

i think public schooling plays a role in society. i think that we don't need to expand it though, and if we introduce education options such as more private/charter schools, public schools will be less bloated and have more resources to run their operations. i'm speaking as someone whose mom taught K-12 and her experiences, and of course as a former public school student, but i myself have not experienced education bureaucracy. i do know that public school administration in california is waaaay too big, to the point that it takes away from the classroom

community colleges are like the big place where adult vocational training takes place.

They have ties to local industries beyond what unis have

Public schooling is factory for future slaves. Kids should not be stuck in rooms all day learning useless standardized shit. Give the kids minimal: how to read, write, basic maths. And then children should be able to decide what they want to focus in as some children are talented in one subject than another @platonic chain

teach them classical greek philosphy

teach them debate

It should be cheap(possibly free) and easy to take part time classes.

@Montana 2025

I only partially agree with you. I think that Texas has done it right. They got past the tracking thing by making students declare a "Major", so that students spend the majority of their time taking classes in their chosen field, and a lot of those classes replace core gen ed requirements

@Montana 2025 germany does this with Realschule and Gymnasium. Kids decide in their teens which vocation they wish to be in and whether the want to go into higher education or job force training

Meaning that vocational teachers see their students for more of the time through the day and they do stuff like get english credits through nursing classes or math credits through welding

What a fucking shit show

I still can't believe it

The problem with private school is that it only exposes kids to a subset of the real world

Why can't we get a Joe Rogan moderation

My school's welding program has massively turned around kids who couldn't sit still who were considered no-hopers.